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@@ -1187,6984 +1187,6980 @@ ha vissuto dentro i muri della prigione,
 non hanno mai avuto paura.
 
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-The village of Attica
+00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:46,560
+Attica era un posto
+fantastico in cui vivere.
 
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-00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:46,170
-was a great place to live was
+00:19:48,304 --> 00:19:49,536
+molto tipico,
 
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-00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:48,550
-very typical.
+00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,232
+il classico paesino
 
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-I think small town
+00:19:51,344 --> 00:19:54,992
+dove conosci tutti,
 
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-00:19:50,970 --> 00:19:53,760
-where you knew everyone,
+00:19:55,184 --> 00:19:58,960
+e sei imparentato con metà del villaggio.
 
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-00:19:54,550 --> 00:19:56,760
-you were related
-to probably half of the town.
+00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:03,344
+Andavamo in bici per la città
+andavamo al parco
 
 284
-00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:02,270
-We've ride our bikes through town,
-go to the park,
+00:20:03,408 --> 00:20:08,336
+a fare il bagno nella piscina pubblica,
+passeggiate per i boschi..
 
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-00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:06,980
-we go swimming at the public pool,
-we go hiking up in the woods.
-
-286
 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:13,450
 Erica is a company town.
 
-287
+286
 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:18,200
 Many of the people who work there
 and have lived in our town
 
-288
+287
 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:22,830
 worked as either civilian employees
 or corrections officers at Attica.
 
-289
+288
 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:27,920
 My grandfather worked there.
 
-290
+289
 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:30,800
 My dad worked there.
 
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+290
 00:20:31,050 --> 00:20:32,590
 And between six or
 
-292
+291
 00:20:32,590 --> 00:20:36,340
 eight of the houses that were on
 our street had correctional officers
 
-293
+292
 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:39,560
 or civilian individuals
 working in them with their families.
 
-294
+293
 00:20:44,350 --> 00:20:46,730
 These were the only jobs in the area,
 
-295
+294
 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,610
 dairy farming and the prisons.
 
-296
+295
 00:20:50,610 --> 00:20:54,450
 So there was this culture clash
 that came together to Africa.
 
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 00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:56,990
 You had all white guards.
 
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+297
 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,990
 And a population of prisoners,
 
-299
+298
 00:21:00,990 --> 00:21:04,580
 there was 70 or more percent
 black and brown.
 
-300
+299
 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,420
 What could go wrong?
 
-301
+300
 00:21:12,590 --> 00:21:15,590
 And the reputation was called
 the last stop.
 
-302
+301
 00:21:16,050 --> 00:21:18,680
 This was the most strict prison
 in the state of New York.
 
-303
+302
 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,640
 It was known the word was dead
 
-304
+303
 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,850
 that when you got there,
 you knew where he was in for a hard place.
 
-305
+304
 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,230
 Last place,
 the last place, Attica was the last place
 
-306
+305
 00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:29,690
 that was that was that that was last.
 
-307
+306
 00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:32,610
 And you've got to really be there
 to see why
 
-308
+307
 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:35,820
 there was no, no black guards in Attica.
 
-309
+308
 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:38,070
 There was no Spanish guards.
 
-310
+309
 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:41,990
 They were all white people, man
 that come from the local neighborhoods
 
-311
+310
 00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:46,290
 that don't know
 nothing about people who come from broken
 
-312
+311
 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:49,920
 people who come from Manhattan,
 people who come from the Bronx.
 
-313
+312
 00:21:50,590 --> 00:21:52,300
 They don't know
 nothing about this culture.
 
-314
+313
 00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:55,720
 Most of
 them don't even want to talk to you.
 
-315
+314
 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:57,180
 They're giving you just straight.
 
-316
+315
 00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:58,800
 Don't talk to me.
 
-317
+316
 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,100
 And it was like that Don't talk to me.
 
-318
+317
 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,470
 They were hit the state bar.
 
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+318
 00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:04,770
 And this is a metal.
 
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+319
 00:22:04,770 --> 00:22:07,310
 A metal tips that.
 
-321
+320
 00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:10,690
 And it rings out, but and you walk
 
-322
+321
 00:22:11,310 --> 00:22:13,860
 and then when they want you to stop,
 they said. But
 
-323
+322
 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:16,950
 that was their communication.
 
-324
+323
 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:19,490
 The only thing was right was being right
 
-325
+324
 00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:21,700
 and I mean it in all sincerity
 
-326
+325
 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:25,330
 where everybody was sort of like
 not so much mixing with other countries
 
-327
+326
 00:22:25,330 --> 00:22:27,910
 would stand together
 for the purpose of the.
 
-328
+327
 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,250
 Survival,
 
-329
+328
 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:33,960
 I was white, so I got the best jobs.
 
-330
+329
 00:22:34,670 --> 00:22:36,970
 I was always given a little bit
 
-331
+330
 00:22:36,970 --> 00:22:40,720
 more leeway than the Blacks.
 
-332
+331
 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:45,020
 I can get an extra meal if I want to one
 because I was a white guy.
 
-333
+332
 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,270
 I'm a I'm a white guy, you know,
 give me a little extra.
 
-334
+333
 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,810
 And I got it.
 
-335
+334
 00:22:50,810 --> 00:22:54,570
 I always was able to manipulate the system
 
-336
+335
 00:22:54,570 --> 00:22:57,110
 inside the prison
 because I was a white guy.
 
-337
+336
 00:22:57,690 --> 00:23:01,450
 I'm almost ashamed to say
 that I took advantage of that back then,
 
-338
+337
 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,950
 but it was the only way to survive.
 
-339
+338
 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:07,330
 It really, really was.
 
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+339
 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,670
 A roll of toilet
 
-341
+340
 00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:20,050
 paper would have to last you a month.
 
-342
+341
 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,970
 You have to be a magician
 or tear up papers
 
-343
+342
 00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:27,270
 out of the books and stuff like that
 to wipe your behind and stuff like that.
 
-344
+343
 00:23:27,310 --> 00:23:30,100
 Guys were complaining
 about basically things like toothpaste.
 
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+344
 00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:32,810
 Toilet paper.
 
-346
+345
 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,360
 A change of sheets.
 
-347
+346
 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,320
 More than once a month.
 
-348
+347
 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,400
 Things like digging clothes being cleaned.
 
-349
+348
 00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:43,160
 Personal hygiene, things
 being treated like human beings.
 
-350
+349
 00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:49,120
 No school program, Atika, was.
 
-351
+350
 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:51,830
 I can't describe it to me.
 
-352
+351
 00:23:52,290 --> 00:23:53,500
 It was dead.
 
-353
+352
 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:55,250
 It was just dead.
 
-354
+353
 00:23:58,630 --> 00:24:01,300
 There was no religious freedom,
 particularly
 
-355
+354
 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:03,930
 for the burgeoning Muslim movement.
 
-356
+355
 00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:07,560
 They were denied the right to worship.
 
-357
+356
 00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:12,770
 They were fed pork because the prison
 also had a farm where they raised pigs.
 
-358
+357
 00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:15,810
 So that's what you god.
 
-359
+358
 00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:18,110
 If it isn't $0.60 a day,
 
-360
+359
 00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:20,780
 so that's $0.24 a meal.
 
-361
+360
 00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:24,320
 If saw money on $0.21.
 
-362
+361
 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:26,740
 I swear to God,
 
-363
+362
 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:29,660
 one time I got my head opened up by God
 
-364
+363
 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:32,620
 and I was put into a segregation cell.
 
-365
+364
 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,880
 And a doctor came, you know,
 
-366
+365
 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920
 just out of I was bleeding all over.
 
-367
+366
 00:24:39,050 --> 00:24:42,380
 So it's like they cracked my head wide
 open.
 
-368
+367
 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:47,010
 Put it over here,
 but they had a feeding hole in the cell.
 
-369
+368
 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:49,640
 And so I put it that he put a
 
-370
+369
 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,270
 flashlight like, I swear to God,
 he hit me with the flashlight.
 
-371
+370
 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:57,310
 Right, right where the cut was.
 
-372
+371
 00:24:58,110 --> 00:24:59,860
 And walked away.
 
-373
+372
 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:06,950
 They wait
 until everybody is locked up at night
 
-374
+373
 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:09,870
 and then they come for you,
 come for you as a goose.
 
-375
+374
 00:25:12,910 --> 00:25:15,960
 These are the beat up police.
 
-376
+375
 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,210
 These two guys, they come nine, ten.
 
-377
+376
 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,250
 Real big guys
 
-378
+377
 00:25:21,250 --> 00:25:25,630
 with real big sticks when they come in
 and they beat you up in your show
 
-379
+378
 00:25:25,630 --> 00:25:29,050
 and then they take, you say, gation
 and sometimes you don't come back.
 
-380
+379
 00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:30,930
 Attica was.
 
-381
+380
 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:34,770
 It's.
 
-382
+381
 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:40,650
 Fear they they ran the prison would fear.
 
-383
+382
 00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:44,570
 Being scared of them were their means
 
-384
+383
 00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:47,280
 of running a prison.
 
-385
+384
 00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:53,200
 You either shut your mouth
 or you were in big trouble.
 
-386
+385
 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,370
 Some people died.
 
-387
+386
 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,670
 Somewhat crippled,
 somewhat psychologically damaged
 
-388
+387
 00:26:01,670 --> 00:26:05,630
 for life. And.
 
-389
+388
 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,300
 It was a bad place to be.
 
-390
+389
 00:26:15,850 --> 00:26:17,890
 They wanted to to institute
 
-391
+390
 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:20,650
 and instill that fear
 and that they were in control,
 
-392
+391
 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,320
 even though they knew
 they were losing control.
 
-393
+392
 00:26:26,740 --> 00:26:27,740
 My generation
 
-394
+393
 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:30,240
 that came into Annika at that time,
 
-395
+394
 00:26:31,070 --> 00:26:34,240
 we felt that we was in broken Malabar
 as we wasn't
 
-396
+395
 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,460
 shuffling our feet,
 we would walk with our heads up high.
 
-397
+396
 00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:39,920
 We would talk in our own lingo.
 
-398
+397
 00:26:40,330 --> 00:26:41,250
 Who's your daddy?
 
-399
+398
 00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:43,000
 That's what we were going to take.
 
-400
+399
 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,920
 Nothing from nobody.
 
-401
+400
 00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:47,340
 We want to respect.
 
-402
+401
 00:26:48,510 --> 00:26:50,680
 You had to give it to us,
 would you want to do or not?
 
-403
+402
 00:26:51,890 --> 00:26:54,220
 I'd read Algiers Cleaver Soul on Ice.
 
-404
+403
 00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:59,390
 Huey Newton and, you know, the path of
 Piety and George Jackson story.
 
-405
+404
 00:26:59,390 --> 00:27:00,810
 I read all that stuff.
 
-406
+405
 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:02,480
 George Jackson was revolutionary.
 
-407
+406
 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,820
 He's got to get busted for a ten dollar
 on gas station robbery and gang life.
 
-408
+407
 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,780
 He ended up in the system
 in the soul of the prison.
 
-409
+408
 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,330
 He showed us. And I mean us.
 
-410
+409
 00:27:15,490 --> 00:27:17,620
 The younger guys that came into Attica
 
-411
+410
 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:21,540
 there was OK to say no.
 
-412
+411
 00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:24,170
 It was OK to be rebellious.
 
-413
+412
 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,630
 Understand
 they may be consequences to saying no.
 
-414
+413
 00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:31,970
 But it was OK
 
-415
+414
 00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:35,010
 and it was uplifting, it was uplifting.
 
-416
+415
 00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:39,430
 I think racism is a controlled
 of control would
 
-417
+416
 00:27:40,690 --> 00:27:43,020
 create an atmosphere whereby then
 
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+417
 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:48,280
 petroleum, of course, here in prison
 we see the repression
 
-419
+418
 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,570
 and the exploitation,
 
-420
+419
 00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:53,530
 the victimization of.
 
-421
+420
 00:27:53,660 --> 00:27:56,490
 Lower class people's.
 
-422
+421
 00:27:56,660 --> 00:27:59,660
 A lot of Black Panthers
 were coming to prison.
 
-423
+422
 00:27:59,950 --> 00:28:03,170
 I started hanging out with them
 and they politicized me.
 
-424
+423
 00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:07,340
 The Black Panther Party for Self-Defense
 calls upon the American people in general
 
-425
+424
 00:28:07,550 --> 00:28:11,510
 and the black people in particular
 to take careful note of the racist.
 
-426
+425
 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:15,220
 Police agencies throughout the country
 are intensifying the terror,
 
-427
+426
 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:18,470
 brutality, murder
 and repression of black people.
 
-428
+427
 00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:23,810
 Of course, you had black Muslims
 and his message to a black man really?
 
-429
+428
 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,320
 Well, a lot of guys that were in jail.
 
-430
+429
 00:28:27,610 --> 00:28:29,190
 You want one thing?
 
-431
+430
 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:31,860
 We declare our right on this word
 
-432
+431
 00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:36,160
 to be a man, to be a human being,
 to be respected,
 
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+432
 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,330
 every human being,
 to be given the rights of a human being
 
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+433
 00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:44,000
 in this society, on this Earth,
 and this day what we intend
 
-435
+434
 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,130
 to bring into existence
 by any means in the city.
 
-436
+435
 00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:53,720
 Officials at
 
-437
+436
 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,970
 California's San Quentin
 Prison still are trying to piece together
 
-438
+437
 00:28:56,970 --> 00:29:00,680
 exactly what happened and how inmate
 attempted prison break yesterday,
 
-439
+438
 00:29:00,970 --> 00:29:03,520
 in which three convicts and three guards
 died.
 
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+439
 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:07,480
 one of the dead convicts was George
 Jackson of the self-styled
 
-441
+440
 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:10,190
 Soledad Brothers. Jackson was 29.
 
-442
+441
 00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:12,820
 Joy Jackson was that final straw?
 
-443
+442
 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,200
 I don't give a fuck no more.
 
-444
+443
 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,530
 You're going to kill us anyway.
 
-445
+444
 00:29:15,530 --> 00:29:17,740
 We can't get out when it's fucking cage.
 
-446
+445
 00:29:17,740 --> 00:29:18,950
 So where we're going.
 
-447
+446
 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:21,660
 So if we're going to die,
 let's die as men.
 
-448
+447
 00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:25,540
 And brother just got frustrated.
 
-449
+448
 00:29:27,170 --> 00:29:29,290
 We'd go into the mess hall
 
-450
+449
 00:29:29,290 --> 00:29:31,880
 with a black band on Iran.
 
-451
+450
 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,550
 And just sit there,
 take a spoon when you come in.
 
-452
+451
 00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:36,880
 Take no food.
 
-453
+452
 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,430
 We didn't speak.
 
-454
+453
 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:42,390
 During the whole time,
 we didn't pick up any food.
 
-455
+454
 00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:46,440
 That I think kind of alerted
 
-456
+455
 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,940
 the institution that we are in solidarity.
 
-457
+456
 00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:52,190
 They're probably seen that type
 
-458
+457
 00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:55,030
 of solidarity before.
 
-459
+458
 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,790
 There was a lot of talk
 
-460
+459
 00:30:03,790 --> 00:30:05,960
 discussing the situation
 
-461
+460
 00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:10,130
 because the inmates were very upset
 
-462
+461
 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,750
 and things were happening here
 
-463
+462
 00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:15,510
 and there was great concern.
 
-464
+463
 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,930
 It was a time bomb ready to blow,
 and we live with it
 
-465
+464
 00:30:19,930 --> 00:30:23,640
 every day in my house
 and every day I say goodbye to my dad.
 
-466
+465
 00:30:23,890 --> 00:30:26,230
 And I knew it might be the last day
 I saw him.
 
-467
+466
 00:30:26,270 --> 00:30:29,900
 It was open conversation.
 
-468
+467
 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:34,320
 Things were getting worse,
 
-469
+468
 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,690
 and so they had a meeting
 with the administration
 
-470
+469
 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,240
 in the administration,
 essentially dismissed their concerns
 
-471
+470
 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:43,120
 and said everybody back to work.
 
-472
+471
 00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:46,040
 However, we think maybe it's a good idea
 if you left
 
-473
+472
 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,420
 your personal belongings at home
 like wedding rings, wallets, et cetera.
 
-474
+473
 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:52,960
 So my father absolutely knew
 that something was going on.
 
-475
+474
 00:30:53,380 --> 00:30:56,760
 I was having breakfast with him
 and he was talking to me,
 
-476
+475
 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,380
 and I knew he was nervous.
 
-477
+476
 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:01,890
 When he said something's going to happen,
 he said, I just don't know what or when,
 
-478
+477
 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:03,810
 but I think I'll be OK.
 
-479
+478
 00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:09,350
 There was a fight
 
-480
+479
 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:12,560
 in a yard on September eighth,
 
-481
+480
 00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:15,820
 and the guards promised
 nothing would happen as a result of this
 
-482
+481
 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:18,780
 because they could feel the tension
 building up.
 
-483
+482
 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,530
 Then that night, they broke that promise.
 
-484
+483
 00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:26,410
 They came and pulled them out of cells
 and about three or four of them.
 
-485
+484
 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,370
 And then.
 
-486
+485
 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,540
 He was thought to embarrass
 Barroso would have a glass.
 
-487
+486
 00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:37,170
 May have had or cans or whatever they may
 had, and it was a disturbance that dear.
 
-488
+487
 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:42,300
 So the inmates decided at that moment,
 Man, this is a man we tied.
 
-489
+488
 00:31:42,550 --> 00:31:44,050
 I mean, they killed Josh Jackson.
 
-490
+489
 00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:45,680
 They did this throughout the years.
 
-491
+490
 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,390
 We tie, you know, and they they went off.
 
-492
+491
 00:31:58,780 --> 00:32:01,110
 I was in school that day.
 
-493
+492
 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,240
 And the whistle
 
-494
+493
 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,240
 from the prison just kept going,
 and we could hear it.
 
-495
+494
 00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:09,620
 We got calls from somebody from the prison
 
-496
+495
 00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:12,160
 saying that your dad, you know,
 is definitely being held.
 
-497
+496
 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
 You know, I was scared,
 I was worried for my dad.
 
-498
+497
 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,260
 I love my dad, but we didn't really
 know what was going on.
 
-499
+498
 00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:25,010
 Understanding about what?
 
-500
+499
 00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:29,140
 This incident developing it added
 in this declaration here will explain
 
-501
+500
 00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:34,190
 the reasons for the entire incident
 that has erupted here at Attica
 
-502
+501
 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,820
 is not a result of the dastardly
 bushwhacking of the two prisoners.
 
-503
+502
 00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:44,660
 September eighth of 1970
 11 of the unmitigated oppression wrought
 
-504
+503
 00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:48,450
 by the racist administrative network
 of this prison throughout the years.
 
-505
+504
 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,120
 We want the government to guarantee
 that there will be no reprisals
 
-506
+505
 00:32:53,410 --> 00:32:57,380
 and we want all facets of the media
 to articulate this.
 
-507
+506
 00:32:58,290 --> 00:33:00,960
 We needed the media in there
 because we needed
 
-508
+507
 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,260
 to let the world know what was happening.
 
-509
+508
 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:08,390
 We know this is one of the turning points
 
-510
+509
 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:10,350
 in the whole thing.
 
-511
+510
 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,560
 We would like the press to come in,
 
-512
+511
 00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:17,560
 including the television cameras
 
-513
+512
 00:33:20,150 --> 00:33:23,030
 that transformed everything.
 
-514
+513
 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:28,820
 Because now
 the prisoners had a worldwide audience.
 
-515
+514
 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,620
 Whatever happens here at Attica
 State Prison,
 
-516
+515
 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:39,000
 I'm not sure how they heard
 that there was a black journalist outside
 
-517
+516
 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:42,420
 that they wanted me to be
 
-518
+517
 00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:45,550
 on the group that went in with us.
 
-519
+518
 00:33:46,340 --> 00:33:48,550
 Suddenly, I'm on in this group
 
-520
+519
 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:52,430
 going into the prison with this.
 
-521
+520
 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,430
 Head of the prison system.
 
-522
+521
 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:58,480
 I was surprised
 that they had asked for me.
 
-523
+522
 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,320
 But I guess
 because of the fact that they had watched
 
-524
+523
 00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:07,410
 the news, my reports were factual
 
-525
+524
 00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:11,870
 and I was not taking anybody's side
 
-526
+525
 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,290
 in the whole thing.
 
-527
+526
 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,540
 We went in
 
-528
+527
 00:34:17,870 --> 00:34:21,920
 and it was completely surreal,
 
-529
+528
 00:34:22,420 --> 00:34:26,340
 like, you're walking down a tunnel
 and suddenly
 
-530
+529
 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:29,090
 you walk into this huge yard
 
-531
+530
 00:34:29,470 --> 00:34:34,680
 where there are men everywhere
 like thousands of men.
 
-532
+531
 00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:37,560
 And I remember
 
-533
+532
 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:40,310
 some people yelling, Hey, J.J..
 
-534
+533
 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:43,320
 I said hello to people
 
-535
+534
 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,150
 that I knew from Bed-Stuy and Harlem,
 
-536
+535
 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,490
 and they were in Attica.
 
-537
+536
 00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:55,490
 Once inside,
 we were brought along through the yard
 
-538
+537
 00:34:55,490 --> 00:34:59,040
 with a member of the inmate security force
 constantly at our side.
 
-539
+538
 00:34:59,870 --> 00:35:02,250
 We were allowed to go
 where they told us to go.
 
-540
+539
 00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:04,380
 We were all allowed to film.
 
-541
+540
 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:06,510
 Only one of the prisoners told us
 we could.
 
-542
+541
 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:10,180
 Inmates faces were covered
 so as to keep their identities secret.
 
-543
+542
 00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:14,680
 Our first concern on entering was to learn
 how the hostages
 
-544
+543
 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,730
 were going to see the hostages, but
 
-545
+544
 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,190
 I was able to ask.
 
-546
+545
 00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:24,150
 one question before I was moved
 
-547
+546
 00:35:24,610 --> 00:35:28,150
 to the negotiation table to read it,
 all right.
 
-548
+547
 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,450
 Yes, I have so far,
 but very no, no complaints, but
 
-549
+548
 00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:34,660
 no problem solver so far and treat it
 very good.
 
-550
+549
 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:38,580
 Shortly thereafter, one of the inmates,
 
-551
+550
 00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:42,080
 a young man by the name of l.D.
 
-552
+551
 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,670
 Barclay, started to read
 
-553
+552
 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:48,460
 the demands of the entire prison
 population.
 
-554
+553
 00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:54,050
 That means each and every one of us here
 have set forth to change forever.
 
-555
+554
 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:57,350
 The ruthless brutalization and disregard
 for the lives
 
-556
+555
 00:35:57,350 --> 00:36:00,310
 of the prisoners here
 and throughout the United States.
 
-557
+556
 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,020
 He was saying,
 What we all want you to scream.
 
-558
+557
 00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:07,150
 But he was explaining it
 so that everybody could understand
 
-559
+558
 00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:10,150
 so that when you were sitting
 in your living room,
 
-560
+559
 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:12,400
 you could say, Well, the guy's a criminal.
 
-561
+560
 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,570
 Yeah, but.
 
-562
+561
 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,240
 He is saying something that's.
 
-563
+562
 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:15,660
 That's
 
-564
+563
 00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:19,370
 that I understand that.
 
-565
+564
 00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:22,370
 How could we do that, you know,
 he was waking up America.
 
-566
+565
 00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:25,630
 And he was the best one to do it.
 
-567
+566
 00:36:25,630 --> 00:36:27,590
 We are men.
 
-568
+567
 00:36:27,590 --> 00:36:31,760
 We are not beasts and we do not intend
 to be beaten or driven effort.
 
-569
+568
 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:34,840
 Audi is only going to be here for 90 days,
 
-570
+569
 00:36:34,890 --> 00:36:38,310
 he'll be getting out, but he wanted to
 the outside world and noted.
 
-571
+570
 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,850
 The prison is inhumane.
 
-572
+571
 00:36:42,850 --> 00:36:45,400
 What has happened here is but the sound of
 
-573
+572
 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,070
 for the fury of those who are oppressed,
 
-574
+573
 00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:51,280
 we will not compromise on any terms
 
-575
+574
 00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:54,610
 except those terms
 that are agreeable to us.
 
-576
+575
 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,700
 We call.
 
-577
+576
 00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:03,910
 You felt it.
 
-578
+577
 00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:07,130
 And at that moment,
 
-579
+578
 00:37:07,130 --> 00:37:09,880
 I heard it and I seen it.
 
-580
+579
 00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:13,340
 And that reaffirmed
 
-581
+580
 00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:16,300
 why we was data, why I was there.
 
-582
+581
 00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:22,430
 It was a feeling that this was big.
 
-583
+582
 00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:25,390
 This was huge.
 
-584
+583
 00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:32,280
 Corrections Commissioner Oswald maintained
 
-585
+584
 00:37:32,860 --> 00:37:35,070
 that he had done
 
-586
+585
 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,910
 quite a bit of the things
 
-587
+586
 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:41,910
 that the inmates had requested.
 
-588
+587
 00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:43,500
 I've,
 
-589
+588
 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,170
 uh, complied
 
-590
+589
 00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:50,340
 with the several things
 I said I would do as my part.
 
-591
+590
 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,550
 I brought the press and other media
 
-592
+591
 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:57,760
 in here to listen as we talk.
 
-593
+592
 00:37:58,010 --> 00:38:01,760
 And now my question is I asked earlier,
 
-594
+593
 00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:06,230
 when will you release the hostages?
 
-595
+594
 00:38:07,350 --> 00:38:09,480
 Now the table was turned
 
-596
+595
 00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:13,030
 and we had the power,
 
-597
+596
 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,070
 so when we asked him for something,
 
-598
+597
 00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:18,070
 he had to give it to us
 because he had no choice.
 
-599
+598
 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,160
 We wanted some assurance that we weren't
 
-600
+599
 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,450
 going to be retaliated against.
 
-601
+600
 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,660
 So we ask Herman Schwartz
 
-602
+601
 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,870
 to go to District Court in New York.
 
-603
+602
 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,050
 And I get an injunction
 
-604
+603
 00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:37,340
 that would assure us
 that we wouldn't be retaliated against.
 
-605
+604
 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,090
 I sat down and wrote an injunction.
 
-606
+605
 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,180
 Which barred any kind of retaliation.
 
-607
+606
 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,560
 It had been agreed that there would be
 
-608
+607
 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,560
 another meeting the next morning.
 
-609
+608
 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:55,070
 The time is now ten minutes late.
 
-610
+609
 00:38:55,070 --> 00:38:58,360
 We've been shooting this tape
 for approximately two hours.
 
-611
+610
 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,030
 We started about 6:00 p.m..
 
-612
+611
 00:39:02,490 --> 00:39:04,540
 Light is almost gone now
 
-613
+612
 00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:07,910
 we can see lights in cell block D.
 
-614
+613
 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:18,130
 Oh. The guy next to me
 
-615
+614
 00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:20,970
 was named Raymond Wei.
 
-616
+615
 00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:25,060
 You open up in the air.
 
-617
+616
 00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:28,230
 Gardner still remain way, your way,
 
-618
+617
 00:39:28,930 --> 00:39:31,270
 your smear
 
-619
+618
 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,690
 ain't been out at the dog and 22 years.
 
-620
+619
 00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:38,690
 And we was talking
 
-621
+620
 00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:40,950
 singing songs, it was
 it was a festive night.
 
-622
+621
 00:39:41,950 --> 00:39:42,950
 I loved it. I loved it.
 
-623
+622
 00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:46,580
 Then I was out in the nighttime
 looking at the stars.
 
-624
+623
 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,250
 I was drunk.
 I was happy. I was. I liked it.
 
-625
+624
 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:52,290
 Yeah, I was having a good time
 and it was good.
 
-626
+625
 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:54,380
 I feel free.
 
-627
+626
 00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:58,010
 You know, I mean, prison was dead,
 but you know, I felt free.
 
-628
+627
 00:39:58,210 --> 00:40:00,260
 And you had to hear
 
-629
+628
 00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:03,640
 the doors not locking.
 
-630
+629
 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,350
 And if and if it was a good feeling
 that that first night
 
-631
+630
 00:40:08,890 --> 00:40:10,810
 when it got dark
 
-632
+631
 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:13,480
 and everybody was talking
 about finding somewhere to sleep with,
 
-633
+632
 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,610
 you know, don't sleep alone
 and you know, that type of thing.
 
-634
+633
 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:19,740
 There's a lot of psychopaths
 and sociopaths
 
-635
+634
 00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:23,280
 in those facilities, so you know you
 had to protect yourself from
 
-636
+635
 00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:26,910
 from your peers, even.
 
-637
+636
 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,790
 Well,
 I knew this was going to last forever.
 
-638
+637
 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,960
 I knew they would.
 
-639
+638
 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,090
 It would be an end this.
 
-640
+639
 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:42,720
 But just because he was incarcerated
 
-641
+640
 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,800
 didn't mean that we were less than human.
 
-642
+641
 00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:50,520
 Somebody had to take the stand.
 
-643
+642
 00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:00,360
 At dawn,
 
-644
+643
 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,910
 a smoke from yesterday's fires lingered
 over prison walls, a federal injunction
 
-645
+644
 00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:09,580
 was obtained prohibiting physical reprisal
 against those involved in the riot.
 
-646
+645
 00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:13,660
 When I brought in the injunction,
 
-647
+646
 00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:18,290
 we talked to the prisoners
 at opposite ends
 
-648
+647
 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:21,300
 of a rather long tunnel.
 
-649
+648
 00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:24,760
 They said where where the administrators.
 
-650
+649
 00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:26,590
 I don't know.
 
-651
+650
 00:41:26,590 --> 00:41:28,890
 I'm here about know where they are.
 
-652
+651
 00:41:28,890 --> 00:41:31,680
 Finally, at 10:00, Oswald
 
-653
+652
 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,020
 and the others show up.
 
-654
+653
 00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,310
 The prisoners were furious.
 
-655
+654
 00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:41,440
 They had been,
 as they would put it, dissed.
 
-656
+655
 00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:44,700
 They're supposed
 to meet at seven or 8:00 and.
 
-657
+656
 00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:48,030
 It was very clear
 
-658
+657
 00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:51,200
 the air was very tense.
 
-659
+658
 00:41:51,620 --> 00:41:54,870
 You had the table spread out.
 
-660
+659
 00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:58,460
 We were on one side.
 
-661
+660
 00:41:58,460 --> 00:42:00,710
 The inmates were on the other.
 
-662
+661
 00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:03,960
 And I gave the document
 
-663
+662
 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,340
 that the judge had signed this.
 
-664
+663
 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:08,800
 It's nothing.
 
-665
+664
 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:11,680
 I'm sorry, I spent hours of
 
-666
+665
 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:14,730
 of and got no sleep and trouble
 
-667
+666
 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:19,350
 declaring that a federal judge
 has signed off on an injunction
 
-668
+667
 00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:23,440
 saying that there would be no reprisals,
 anything that can.
 
-669
+668
 00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:26,820
 Waving that at us
 
-670
+669
 00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:29,240
 and they're free to do so was the same.
 
-671
+670
 00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:32,160
 There was no judicial seal on it.
 
-672
+671
 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,830
 I have received injunctions
 from the Southern District,
 
-673
+672
 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,000
 which are judicial fields.
 
-674
+673
 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,000
 This paper is an empty gesture.
 
-675
+674
 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,080
 Jerry, did you?
 
-676
+675
 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,750
 That was his nickname.
 
-677
+676
 00:42:42,750 --> 00:42:47,260
 Jerry Rosenberg was a hell of a guy
 and he was well respected.
 
-678
+677
 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:48,470
 He had a law degree.
 
-679
+678
 00:42:49,890 --> 00:42:51,850
 Any new law he would help
 
-680
+679
 00:42:51,850 --> 00:42:54,140
 all the inmates,
 she was a jailhouse lawyer.
 
-681
+680
 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440
 You can take this piece of paper
 and throw it away
 
-682
+681
 00:42:58,690 --> 00:43:00,150
 because this is no protection.
 
-683
+682
 00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:03,190
 Geoffrey Rosenberg God bless him, sir.
 
-684
+683
 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:06,360
 Charging scientists.
 
-685
+684
 00:43:06,610 --> 00:43:09,660
 There's
 no there's no lost in district court
 
-686
+685
 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:13,830
 stamp on this document
 saying that, you know what?
 
-687
+686
 00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:17,250
 Nothing will happen to worse and torn up.
 
-688
+687
 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:20,750
 You know, we know you mean well,
 
-689
+688
 00:43:20,750 --> 00:43:23,130
 but don't come with the bullshit here.
 
-690
+689
 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,630
 We want a judicial seal and a continuing
 
-691
+690
 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:30,010
 restraining order
 until the litigation is finally ended
 
-692
+691
 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,800
 without any reprisal or brutality
 against any inmate
 
-693
+692
 00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:36,060
 of this institution.
 
-694
+693
 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,190
 Well, lawyers know
 
-695
+694
 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:50,030
 that seals don't mean anything
 
-696
+695
 00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:55,030
 so long as the signature is there.
 
-697
+696
 00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:58,410
 I could have kicked
 Jerry's ass, and I should have
 
-698
+697
 00:43:59,620 --> 00:44:00,500
 read because
 
-699
+698
 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:03,290
 he he just started to grandstand.
 
-700
+699
 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,380
 You know, he was caught up in the moment.
 
-701
+700
 00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:10,340
 Good, smart as he is
 
-702
+701
 00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:14,090
 and a shrewd as he is, he over reacted.
 
-703
+702
 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,310
 And we lost an opportunity there.
 
-704
+703
 00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:20,680
 And then somebody said, let's hold them.
 
-705
+704
 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:23,060
 Let's add to the hostage Cal.
 
-706
+705
 00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:29,570
 I speak everybody here,
 
-707
+706
 00:44:29,570 --> 00:44:31,900
 I want to to you as well.
 
-708
+707
 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:33,990
 When you come in here covering the game,
 
-709
+708
 00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:39,620
 I know you don't give a fuck about no max
 that they somehow give a fuck about you.
 
-710
+709
 00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:42,080
 Nothing I know.
 
-711
+710
 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,670
 Nothing, you know?
 
-712
+711
 00:44:44,670 --> 00:44:46,880
 And I'm gonna to leave you.
 
-713
+712
 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,550
 It seems to me that you are
 
-714
+713
 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,220
 saying to me that you,
 you are an artist at pretty rare occasion.
 
-715
+714
 00:44:55,050 --> 00:44:57,510
 I bear witness
 to your evil deeds, Mr. Art.
 
-716
+715
 00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:59,970
 Now I repeat,
 
-717
+716
 00:44:59,970 --> 00:45:03,390
 as I told you yesterday,
 we are being lenient with you.
 
-718
+717
 00:45:04,350 --> 00:45:05,940
 We are negotiating.
 
-719
+718
 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:08,400
 We are talking. We shouldn't be.
 
-720
+719
 00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:10,530
 We should be demanding.
 
-721
+720
 00:45:10,530 --> 00:45:11,530
 So why?
 
-722
+721
 00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:15,200
 Because we have 35 lives, not hostages.
 
-723
+722
 00:45:15,860 --> 00:45:16,870
 And I repeat Mr.
 
-724
+723
 00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:20,950
 Oswald, a moment's
 hesitation would cause you delay.
 
-725
+724
 00:45:21,330 --> 00:45:23,830
 The meeting in the yard got very tense
 
-726
+725
 00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:28,880
 because Oswald would talk to you
 from one side of the mouth.
 
-727
+726
 00:45:29,170 --> 00:45:31,550
 And then when he left the yard
 and go outside,
 
-728
+727
 00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:33,970
 he talks from the other side of the mouth
 
-729
+728
 00:45:33,970 --> 00:45:37,050
 of the inmates made any demands
 that, you know, there are all kinds
 
-730
+729
 00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:40,760
 of demands, you know, for the change
 of change in the whole world.
 
-731
+730
 00:45:40,890 --> 00:45:44,560
 But what he forgot
 was that he was being seen on TV.
 
-732
+731
 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,440
 Come on, how could you do that?
 
-733
+732
 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,020
 We watch you
 
-734
+733
 00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:54,700
 and you stated it yesterday on the news
 media, in a huff, in a panic, you said.
 
-735
+734
 00:45:54,820 --> 00:45:56,410
 Well, I don't know what they want.
 
-736
+735
 00:45:56,410 --> 00:45:58,530
 They want the world and what you like.
 
-737
+736
 00:45:58,530 --> 00:45:59,740
 You walk away from reporters.
 
-738
+737
 00:45:59,740 --> 00:46:01,830
 Would you reply that the sidewalk?
 
-739
+738
 00:46:01,830 --> 00:46:04,160
 Yes, I did say that.
 
-740
+739
 00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:05,580
 Let him finish.
 
-741
+740
 00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:06,620
 I don't say that.
 
-742
+741
 00:46:06,620 --> 00:46:09,210
 Can't bullshit a bullshitter.
 
-743
+742
 00:46:09,210 --> 00:46:10,630
 You can't do that.
 
-744
+743
 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,090
 The first time he came in, I'm going to do
 
-745
+744
 00:46:13,090 --> 00:46:15,220
 this, a b, c, d e f g
 
-746
+745
 00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:18,760
 and people said, All right,
 going back to business, get it done,
 
-747
+746
 00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:21,510
 came back in and started talking
 and you know,
 
-748
+747
 00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:26,100
 it was going around about hearing around
 about then this scenario.
 
-749
+748
 00:46:26,140 --> 00:46:28,190
 Not that the hostages go.
 
-750
+749
 00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:30,980
 But you be hostage,
 
-751
+750
 00:46:31,570 --> 00:46:33,020
 whatever, you know, power
 
-752
+751
 00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:34,780
 and water.
 
-753
+752
 00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:35,740
 We haven't got that.
 
-754
+753
 00:46:35,740 --> 00:46:38,860
 We're going to get Mr. Harper for himself.
 
-755
+754
 00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:40,370
 So we got to.
 
-756
+755
 00:46:42,830 --> 00:46:45,330
 We're not letting him out of here
 and keeping him in Austin.
 
-757
+756
 00:46:46,330 --> 00:46:47,960
 We all we shut that down.
 
-758
+757
 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,750
 We're not going to be like them.
 
-759
+758
 00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:50,920
 We're not going to break our word.
 
-760
+759
 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
 And it says, well, inmates
 would be more honorable than them.
 
-761
+760
 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,800
 Yes, we were because we gave him my word
 nothing would happen to him.
 
-762
+761
 00:47:06,810 --> 00:47:07,850
 Everybody starts
 
-763
+762
 00:47:07,850 --> 00:47:10,440
 screaming at him, go, let him go.
 
-764
+763
 00:47:12,110 --> 00:47:12,360
 Don't.
 
-765
+764
 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,900
 He got out of Dodge.
 
-766
+765
 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,240
 He never came back.
 
-767
+766
 00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:26,200
 In New York State,
 
-768
+767
 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,580
 some 500 inmates of the Attica maximum
 security prison are still in revolt.
 
-769
+768
 00:47:30,830 --> 00:47:34,000
 Authorities tried unsuccessfully
 to reach a settlement with the prisoners
 
-770
+769
 00:47:34,290 --> 00:47:38,300
 over demands for reforms and to obtain
 release of more than 30 hostages.
 
-771
+770
 00:47:38,670 --> 00:47:42,340
 We have a report on what's been happening
 at Attica from ABC's John Johnson.
 
-772
+771
 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,390
 Fires were still burning at Attica
 State Prison,
 
-773
+772
 00:47:45,810 --> 00:47:48,680
 despite a small army of police and state
 troopers.
 
-774
+773
 00:47:48,850 --> 00:47:51,480
 The prisoners continue to call the shots
 at Attica.
 
-775
+774
 00:47:52,190 --> 00:47:54,610
 Commissioner Oswald announced that
 
-776
+775
 00:47:54,610 --> 00:47:57,570
 prison officials
 were attempting to bring to the prison
 
-777
+776
 00:47:57,730 --> 00:48:02,530
 those people requested by the prisoners
 in areas under where the group
 
-778
+777
 00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:05,490
 was basically people
 
-779
+778
 00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:10,040
 whom they knew people like Tom Wicker,
 
-780
+779
 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,790
 who had written a column about prisoners.
 
-781
+780
 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:16,000
 Senator John Dunn was chairman
 
-782
+781
 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,590
 of the Prisons Committee and sympathetic.
 
-783
+782
 00:48:19,210 --> 00:48:21,170
 He was asked to come.
 
-784
+783
 00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:24,550
 Bill Kunstler, a lawyer for the Chicago
 
-785
+784
 00:48:24,550 --> 00:48:27,140
 seven, asked him to come in
 
-786
+785
 00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:32,350
 and Clarence Jones,
 publisher of the Amsterdam News.
 
-787
+786
 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:38,020
 Have a driver was
 
-788
+787
 00:48:38,020 --> 00:48:41,490
 driving me up,
 the ampersand is the driver, says Boss,
 
-789
+788
 00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:43,990
 they're calling your name on the radio,
 so what you mean?
 
-790
+789
 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,200
 Called Rockefeller,
 
-791
+790
 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,000
 and lo and behold,
 the governor picked up the phone.
 
-792
+791
 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,080
 He said, thank you so much.
 
-793
+792
 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,500
 Mr Jones, we have a major situation.
 
-794
+793
 00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:58,500
 A number of the inmates
 
-795
+794
 00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:00,590
 have called your name.
 
-796
+795
 00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:04,630
 We'll have a car and pick you up.
 
-797
+796
 00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:07,010
 And taking him to a private airport.
 
-798
+797
 00:49:08,970 --> 00:49:10,100
 We're a state private
 
-799
+798
 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,270
 plane is waiting for you.
 
-800
+799
 00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:16,020
 And there are more.
 
-801
+800
 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,900
 Atika, you be part of the.
 
-802
+801
 00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:21,990
 Observers committee.
 
-803
+802
 00:49:23,570 --> 00:49:26,450
 My wife and I were off on vacation
 at the time
 
-804
+803
 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:27,870
 and we got a call
 
-805
+804
 00:49:27,870 --> 00:49:31,790
 that they had asked me to come there,
 and I felt that with my prior experience
 
-806
+805
 00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:35,670
 and my responsibilities as a chairman
 of the prison committee ought to be there.
 
-807
+806
 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,750
 I was optimistic.
 
-808
+807
 00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:40,550
 I thought.
 
-809
+808
 00:49:41,090 --> 00:49:42,340
 Give it a shot.
 
-810
+809
 00:49:43,010 --> 00:49:45,760
 For the rebel prisoners of Attica,
 the encouraging appearance,
 
-811
+810
 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,680
 the people, they consider friends.
 
-812
+811
 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,220
 A 30 man mediation committee,
 including a congressman for newsmen
 
-813
+812
 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,230
 and most importantly, lawyer
 William Kunstler.
 
-814
+813
 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,900
 Have you heard anything from Governor
 Rockefeller's office?
 
-815
+814
 00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:00,110
 I mean, has he put any time
 limit on these negotiations?
 
-816
+815
 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,400
 No, but I understand that
 there is no present
 
-817
+816
 00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:07,030
 plan to use force in this prison,
 and I hope that continues.
 
-818
+817
 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,910
 I just hope that they realize
 that this is a unique situation
 
-819
+818
 00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:15,000
 and that it may take time
 and that if everyone has a good faith,
 
-820
+819
 00:50:15,250 --> 00:50:17,080
 something will work out.
 
-821
+820
 00:50:18,750 --> 00:50:21,630
 It was scary, the tension was tremendous.
 
-822
+821
 00:50:21,630 --> 00:50:25,470
 Eager to cut the air with a knife,
 it was terrifying.
 
-823
+822
 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,890
 I remember going into the yard
 and saying to Mel, Where was I?
 
-824
+823
 00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:30,050
 Do you have a cigaret?
 
-825
+824
 00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:30,470
 And he said,
 
-826
+825
 00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:33,770
 You have one on you, one in your hand,
 one in your mouth and one in your.
 
-827
+826
 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:36,600
 I was scared.
 
-828
+827
 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,770
 When you see a tower
 with people with rifles,
 
-829
+828
 00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:43,020
 I kept thinking
 
-830
+829
 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,990
 we should stay close to Tom Wicker
 and Herman Badillo
 
-831
+830
 00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:48,530
 because they would be the least likely
 to be shot.
 
-832
+831
 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,620
 Frank Big Black
 
-833
+832
 00:50:52,620 --> 00:50:56,540
 Smith was the overall security leader.
 
-834
+833
 00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:59,670
 He took that job on himself already.
 
-835
+834
 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000
 He was the guy.
 
-836
+835
 00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:04,170
 Here's the big man.
 
-837
+836
 00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:06,840
 I mean, this is big.
 
-838
+837
 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,680
 That was responsible to make sure
 
-839
+838
 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,680
 that the observers that came in.
 
-840
+839
 00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:15,890
 They the same way
 they can't manage the same way
 
-841
+840
 00:51:15,890 --> 00:51:19,480
 they did
 that, you know, no harm come to them.
 
-842
+841
 00:51:19,940 --> 00:51:23,060
 He said, Well,
 we've got to have a security force.
 
-843
+842
 00:51:23,770 --> 00:51:26,610
 So we were looking for volunteers.
 
-844
+843
 00:51:26,610 --> 00:51:27,570
 You, you.
 
-845
+844
 00:51:28,530 --> 00:51:30,610
 Along the way for her,
 
-846
+845
 00:51:30,610 --> 00:51:35,330
 can't be all black as we need
 black guys, white guys and Puerto Ricans.
 
-847
+846
 00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:41,420
 We would line up and create a corridor,
 
-848
+847
 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,840
 and they would walk down the middle
 of the corridor with us being a barrier
 
-849
+848
 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,630
 between general population
 and the negotiators.
 
-850
+849
 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,680
 So we would just
 stand shoulder to shoulder and give them
 
-851
+850
 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,010
 that safe space to walk through.
 
-852
+851
 00:52:00,310 --> 00:52:01,730
 We begin to talk with them
 
-853
+852
 00:52:01,730 --> 00:52:06,690
 about what they wanted,
 and they had their their
 
-854
+853
 00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:10,700
 their list of things that they wanted
 already written.
 
-855
+854
 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,950
 You know, everybody wanted a voice.
 
-856
+855
 00:52:13,950 --> 00:52:14,660
 Good, bad.
 
-857
+856
 00:52:14,660 --> 00:52:19,000
 And it worked out,
 so nothing went easy, but it went.
 
-858
+857
 00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:24,920
 We got to a point where we had
 what we thought might be possible.
 
-859
+858
 00:52:25,380 --> 00:52:27,670
 Their demands were, you know,
 
-860
+859
 00:52:28,130 --> 00:52:31,260
 reasonable demands
 about living conditions.
 
-861
+860
 00:52:31,630 --> 00:52:34,090
 They wanted medical care.
 
-862
+861
 00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:38,430
 Decent food,
 
-863
+862
 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,850
 fair disciplinary hearings.
 
-864
+863
 00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:46,440
 Basically,
 
-865
+864
 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,400
 they wanted to be treated
 like human beings,
 
-866
+865
 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,820
 prisoners late last night met
 with a civilian committee
 
-867
+866
 00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:58,160
 in an attempt to clarify demands
 ranging from better prison
 
-868
+867
 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,910
 life conditions
 to more religious and political freedom.
 
-869
+868
 00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:03,920
 I injected into the two demands
 
-870
+869
 00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:08,170
 for some people
 to go to non imperialistic country.
 
-871
+870
 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,880
 You have to be frightened flight out.
 
-872
+871
 00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:12,920
 We thought Cuba
 was going to come and get us.
 
-873
+872
 00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:17,800
 You ship
 troops to Vietnam to stop the men.
 
-874
+873
 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,810
 Go to all these five countries
 to press the button.
 
-875
+874
 00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:23,850
 You can bet why these helicopters
 in air and ship
 
-876
+875
 00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:26,230
 on this country.
 
-877
+876
 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,440
 We didn't seeing people snatch airplanes
 
-878
+877
 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,940
 and all like dead and go to Cuba
 and Algiers and all other places.
 
-879
+878
 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,950
 Why not get out of jail?
 
-880
+879
 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:38,120
 An Air France
 jet was hijacked by Palestinian girls.
 
-881
+880
 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,830
 17 year old girl hijacked a twb jetliner
 
-882
+881
 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,580
 I have for years
 and on a 25 to life sentence.
 
-883
+882
 00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:46,960
 Why not get out of jail?
 
-884
+883
 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,040
 Why not?
 
-885
+884
 00:53:49,290 --> 00:53:50,590
 We all do that.
 
-886
+885
 00:53:50,590 --> 00:53:52,010
 I wasn't going to happen.
 
-887
+886
 00:53:52,010 --> 00:53:54,260
 We weren't going to go to
 
-888
+887
 00:53:54,340 --> 00:53:55,840
 Algeria on the plane.
 
-889
+888
 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,680
 I knew that everybody
 in the back of their mind knew that.
 
-890
+889
 00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:01,010
 But we need it, obviously.
 
-891
+890
 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,480
 We want the federal
 
-892
+891
 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,560
 judiciary to guarantee complete amnesty
 to each and every one of us
 
-893
+892
 00:54:08,770 --> 00:54:13,940
 has taken part in the struggle
 here at Attica to ensure that this amnesty
 
-894
+893
 00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:19,120
 will not be just a groping in the win, but
 a reality for each and every one of us.
 
-895
+894
 00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:23,620
 They were not looking to be relieved
 of the prison sentences
 
-896
+895
 00:54:23,620 --> 00:54:27,080
 to which they have been sent by the courts
 after being convicted.
 
-897
+896
 00:54:27,420 --> 00:54:30,500
 They were looking to be freed from any
 
-898
+897
 00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:32,880
 prosecution or any penalties
 
-899
+898
 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:35,340
 for their engaging in the riot.
 
-900
+899
 00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:41,260
 Besides the normal beatings
 and everything else
 
-901
+900
 00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:45,350
 they're going to do to us, which is,
 you know, automatic.
 
-902
+901
 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:49,940
 We knew that they could also take us
 and bring us to court and,
 
-903
+902
 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,690
 you know, and turn us into the monster
 inmates who took over the prison.
 
-904
+903
 00:54:56,530 --> 00:54:59,110
 We are not advocating violence.
 
-905
+904
 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,200
 We all want to live.
 
-906
+905
 00:55:04,990 --> 00:55:07,290
 All right.
 
-907
+906
 00:55:07,290 --> 00:55:09,290
 If you get one on dog.
 
-908
+907
 00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:14,420
 You're treating them
 better than we have been treated
 
-909
+908
 00:55:15,130 --> 00:55:15,880
 the last.
 
-910
+909
 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,220
 They were fiercely
 
-911
+910
 00:55:21,220 --> 00:55:25,520
 trying to convince prison authorities
 that they didn't cease
 
-912
+911
 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,100
 being a human
 being merely by the fact that they were
 
-913
+912
 00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:32,400
 incarcerated because they had broken.
 
-914
+913
 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,860
 A law society,
 and that's a profound thing.
 
-915
+914
 00:55:37,780 --> 00:55:40,570
 I am somebody.
 
-916
+915
 00:55:40,570 --> 00:55:42,700
 I'm not a thing.
 
-917
+916
 00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:46,290
 You can't treat me like a dog.
 
-918
+917
 00:55:46,290 --> 00:55:48,580
 I may be a prisoner, but I have dignity.
 
-919
+918
 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,040
 And that's what they insisted.
 
-920
+919
 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:55,250
 I'm getting the.
 
-921
+920
 00:55:56,380 --> 00:55:59,420
 Power structure of Africa to recognize.
 
-922
+921
 00:56:00,590 --> 00:56:03,550
 That they continue to be.
 
-923
+922
 00:56:03,550 --> 00:56:04,930
 Somebody.
 
-924
+923
 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,140
 All of you have seen
 
-925
+924
 00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:10,390
 the observers,
 they all were listening to us.
 
-926
+925
 00:56:10,810 --> 00:56:13,600
 I feel that they were supporting us.
 
-927
+926
 00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:15,730
 We see.
 
-928
+927
 00:56:15,730 --> 00:56:17,900
 And that meant a lot to us.
 
-929
+928
 00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:21,280
 This is our situation.
 
-930
+929
 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,740
 Please listen to us.
 And that's what they were doing.
 
-931
+930
 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,030
 They were listening.
 
-932
+931
 00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:27,410
 It felt like they were somebody
 that believed in us.
 
-933
+932
 00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:29,160
 It felt that way.
 
-934
+933
 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,080
 If somebody believe that you know,
 you did have some rights,
 
-935
+934
 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,420
 even though you were a convicted felon
 or whatever.
 
-936
+935
 00:56:36,460 --> 00:56:37,920
 Would we able to get
 
-937
+936
 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,340
 a better mailing
 privileges, better medical privileges?
 
-938
+937
 00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:47,390
 We tried to nail it down to that,
 which was realistic and possible over
 
-939
+938
 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:50,100
 distinguished from a plane waiting for us
 
-940
+939
 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,730
 outside the cellblock, flying us to Cuba.
 
-941
+940
 00:56:54,770 --> 00:56:57,690
 That's what it was like it was
 it was realism
 
-942
+941
 00:56:58,190 --> 00:57:01,570
 from fantasy.
 
-943
+942
 00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:05,370
 We want to be treated as human beings,
 
-944
+943
 00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:08,280
 we will be treated as human beings.
 
-945
+944
 00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:11,290
 Yeah, we have come to the conclusion.
 
-946
+945
 00:57:13,540 --> 00:57:15,120
 That's the study.
 
-947
+946
 00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:19,920
 After much suffering.
 
-948
+947
 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,090
 After much consideration.
 
-949
+948
 00:57:23,090 --> 00:57:25,890
 But if we cannot move
 
-950
+949
 00:57:26,090 --> 00:57:27,180
 people.
 
-951
+950
 00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:30,680
 We will at least try.
 
-952
+951
 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,980
 Today, let me.
 
-953
+952
 00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:38,190
 That statement was sounded
 
-954
+953
 00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:41,070
 everywhere.
 
-955
+954
 00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:46,820
 In that yard,
 
-956
+955
 00:57:46,820 --> 00:57:50,790
 when he said that a roar went up
 like no other.
 
-957
+956
 00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:54,580
 This was this day, and I saw that
 
-958
+957
 00:57:55,330 --> 00:57:58,540
 I really none of us
 were going to be observers,
 
-959
+958
 00:57:58,540 --> 00:58:03,300
 we were going to be mediators ,
 whether we wanted to be mediators or not,
 
-960
+959
 00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:06,010
 whether we were called up to be mediators.
 
-961
+960
 00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:11,510
 This prison uprising had to be mediated.
 
-962
+961
 00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:14,680
 Otherwise it was going to end in disaster.
 
-963
+962
 00:58:16,270 --> 00:58:19,020
 If you people do not understand.
 
-964
+963
 00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:22,150
 If you people do not pick what?
 
-965
+964
 00:58:23,650 --> 00:58:25,900
 If you people can not make the commitment
 
-966
+965
 00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:28,360
 that we have made here.
 
-967
+966
 00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:31,740
 We all did.
 
-968
+967
 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:32,990
 All right.
 
-969
+968
 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,870
 We'll take you all
 
-970
+969
 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,750
 to stand with us.
 
-971
+970
 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,170
 Not necessarily.
 
-972
+971
 00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:45,210
 I know you want to
 
-973
+972
 00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:48,090
 hey, hey, before.
 
-974
+973
 00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:14,950
 Things were growing on the outside,
 
-975
+974
 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,370
 don't take.
 
-976
+975
 00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:22,380
 There were more journalists.
 
-977
+976
 00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:25,210
 There were more police.
 
-978
+977
 00:59:25,210 --> 00:59:27,510
 And it was just getting bigger
 
-979
+978
 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,260
 and bigger and bigger.
 
-980
+979
 00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:34,350
 People are coming night and day
 
-981
+980
 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,680
 vans with reporters and police
 
-982
+981
 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,310
 and things are building up.
 
-983
+982
 00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:44,730
 Among those keeping a vigil outside
 
-984
+983
 00:59:44,730 --> 00:59:48,530
 the prison walls, the families
 of some of the 38 men held hostage.
 
-985
+984
 00:59:48,690 --> 00:59:51,700
 I was just home watching the TV.
 
-986
+985
 00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:54,910
 I just kept looking for my husband.
 
-987
+986
 00:59:55,330 --> 00:59:58,410
 Maybe he'd be killed or brutalized
 in some way
 
-988
+987
 00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:02,170
 because the inmates at that time
 had the power there, you know,
 
-989
+988
 01:00:02,790 --> 01:00:05,500
 and if they didn't like somebody
 who who knew
 
-990
+989
 01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:08,920
 what you were scared to death that,
 you know,
 
-991
+990
 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,300
 they'd just kill him or something
 and they didn't get their way.
 
-992
+991
 01:00:14,050 --> 01:00:16,810
 Families of the 31 hostages wait for word
 
-993
+992
 01:00:16,810 --> 01:00:19,480
 as part of the prison remains
 in control of the inmate.
 
-994
+993
 01:00:26,570 --> 01:00:27,860
 They were upset.
 
-995
+994
 01:00:27,860 --> 01:00:29,940
 They were angry and they were scared
 
-996
+995
 01:00:30,570 --> 01:00:35,030
 standing out there while their loved ones
 are being held hostage
 
-997
+996
 01:00:36,030 --> 01:00:39,790
 and they are waiting
 for any scrap of information
 
-998
+997
 01:00:41,330 --> 01:00:44,830
 to hear something.
 
-999
+998
 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,250
 And many of those families
 
-1000
+999
 01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,970
 stood vigil day and night out there.
 
-1001
+1000
 01:00:52,510 --> 01:00:54,340
 A bunch of people crying,
 
-1002
+1001
 01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:57,220
 the wives and brothers and fathers
 
-1003
+1002
 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,430
 freaking out to his panic.
 
-1004
+1003
 01:01:01,180 --> 01:01:04,850
 People are afraid to talk
 in the parking lot because they thought
 
-1005
+1004
 01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:10,280
 that any reporters or anybody, even
 they did it on the privacy
 
-1006
+1005
 01:01:10,570 --> 01:01:13,780
 because they didn't want the relatives
 targeted, singled out
 
-1007
+1006
 01:01:13,780 --> 01:01:15,780
 by the inmates.
 
-1008
+1007
 01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:28,290
 I had sympathy for them.
 
-1009
+1008
 01:01:28,290 --> 01:01:32,800
 They were elsewhere, you're going to get
 a job if you lived in that
 
-1010
+1009
 01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:36,430
 area and you had no
 
-1011
+1010
 01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:41,180
 training and no understanding
 
-1012
+1011
 01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:44,310
 of what it was like to grow up in
 
-1013
+1012
 01:01:45,390 --> 01:01:48,270
 a poor black urban area.
 
-1014
+1013
 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,690
 You used these were aliens.
 
-1015
+1014
 01:01:52,690 --> 01:01:56,070
 These were people from a different world
 
-1016
+1015
 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,410
 and your family members.
 
-1017
+1016
 01:02:01,580 --> 01:02:04,410
 Maybe you're going to get killed
 
-1018
+1017
 01:02:04,410 --> 01:02:06,330
 because of them.
 
-1019
+1018
 01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:08,670
 Sure, you were.
 
-1020
+1019
 01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:10,880
 Infuriated.
 
-1021
+1020
 01:02:12,050 --> 01:02:13,590
 All these dogs up there with
 
-1022
+1021
 01:02:13,590 --> 01:02:15,800
 all those rifles are trying to kill us.
 
-1023
+1022
 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,510
 Well, we ain't gonna quit the inmates
 that we're giving microphones.
 
-1024
+1023
 01:02:20,510 --> 01:02:21,560
 I'm on TV.
 
-1025
+1024
 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,810
 I mean, the very upsetting.
 
-1026
+1025
 01:02:25,060 --> 01:02:26,730
 They should have resolved it right away.
 
-1027
+1026
 01:02:26,730 --> 01:02:28,730
 It just went on too far.
 
-1028
+1027
 01:02:28,730 --> 01:02:31,440
 We all just wanted it to end.
 
-1029
+1028
 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,320
 What I what you hear over the radio
 
-1030
+1029
 01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:40,320
 and the TV was and it's inspiring to me
 
-1031
+1030
 01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:43,870
 because it seemed to
 me that what I was hearing.
 
-1032
+1031
 01:02:44,910 --> 01:02:47,540
 I didn't think
 
-1033
+1032
 01:02:48,370 --> 01:02:50,670
 they were doing the right thing.
 
-1034
+1033
 01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:52,840
 It just seemed sort of limp to me
 
-1035
+1034
 01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:56,510
 and it was frustrating.
 
-1036
+1035
 01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:59,180
 You'd hear stuff from people.
 
-1037
+1036
 01:02:59,180 --> 01:03:03,140
 That's where it got a little scary too,
 because you could see how the inmates
 
-1038
+1037
 01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:07,310
 were considered like less than human
 kind of like animals.
 
-1039
+1038
 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,900
 There was people saying,
 You know, don't worry about your dad,
 
-1040
+1039
 01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:14,020
 you know, they'll get theirs type thing.
 
-1041
+1040
 01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:16,990
 And so that kind of made it
 even more scary.
 
-1042
+1041
 01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:20,700
 You realize how emotionally charged
 the community is getting.
 
-1043
+1042
 01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:23,660
 The tensions got worse and worse. Worse.
 
-1044
+1043
 01:03:23,660 --> 01:03:25,750
 Emotions got worse and worse and worse.
 
-1045
+1044
 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:36,710
 Sadly,
 
-1046
+1045
 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:42,180
 I think that the hope was stronger
 than any doubt because after three days
 
-1047
+1046
 01:03:42,430 --> 01:03:45,390
 Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
 
-1048
+1047
 01:03:45,970 --> 01:03:47,520
 They had came in
 
-1049
+1048
 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,980
 we had like 30
 demands and most of them what
 
-1050
+1049
 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,940
 possible,
 
-1051
+1050
 01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:56,530
 and we will still be doing about it.
 
-1052
+1051
 01:03:57,150 --> 01:03:59,860
 I've never seen anything like this.
 
-1053
+1052
 01:03:59,860 --> 01:04:02,160
 The people in here are treated like dogs.
 
-1054
+1053
 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,240
 Not only the Black Lives Matter, white.
 
-1055
+1054
 01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:06,740
 And we're going to get what we planned.
 
-1056
+1055
 01:04:06,740 --> 01:04:08,790
 Are we going to die? Try.
 
-1057
+1056
 01:04:08,790 --> 01:04:12,370
 But we thought that whatever happened,
 
-1058
+1057
 01:04:12,370 --> 01:04:15,710
 we may maybe really walk away
 with some improvement
 
-1059
+1058
 01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:17,170
 in our lives.
 
-1060
+1059
 01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:21,760
 Point was, is that whatever happened,
 
-1061
+1060
 01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,890
 it just had to make a difference.
 
-1062
+1061
 01:04:25,180 --> 01:04:26,970
 Change had to happen.
 
-1063
+1062
 01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:29,020
 You had to embrace who.
 
-1064
+1063
 01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:34,690
 There's a report
 
-1065
+1064
 01:04:34,690 --> 01:04:37,730
 that prison officials
 have yielded to most of the demands
 
-1066
+1065
 01:04:37,730 --> 01:04:40,860
 by the rebelling inmates
 of the Attica state prison in New York,
 
-1067
+1066
 01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:44,490
 where more than 30 persons
 have been held hostage for three days.
 
-1068
+1067
 01:04:45,740 --> 01:04:48,490
 As you know, during this ordeal.
 
-1069
+1068
 01:04:48,490 --> 01:04:51,000
 I have personally met with inmates
 
-1070
+1069
 01:04:51,460 --> 01:04:54,830
 on several occasions
 in areas under their control,
 
-1071
+1070
 01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:58,340
 and they have demonstrated my commitment
 
-1072
+1071
 01:04:58,340 --> 01:05:00,760
 to deal with the issues they have raised
 
-1073
+1072
 01:05:01,510 --> 01:05:04,050
 by accepting 28
 
-1074
+1073
 01:05:04,050 --> 01:05:06,930
 of the three major inmate proposals.
 
-1075
+1074
 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,850
 The second is like
 any time of what's going to happen now.
 
-1076
+1075
 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,810
 Well, we hope negotiations will
 
-1077
+1076
 01:05:13,350 --> 01:05:16,310
 start this afternoon and continue
 until they reach a solution.
 
-1078
+1077
 01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:19,650
 Huey Newton or Bobby Seale,
 are they coming?
 
-1079
+1078
 01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:20,190
 They were asked.
 
-1080
+1079
 01:05:20,190 --> 01:05:23,150
 Or we hope
 we understood that they were en route.
 
-1081
+1080
 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:23,860
 We had.
 
-1082
+1081
 01:05:25,030 --> 01:05:27,530
 Kind of settled in on the demands
 
-1083
+1082
 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,950
 we had negotiated with Oswald
 
-1084
+1083
 01:05:30,950 --> 01:05:33,960
 for his commitment to 28 of them.
 
-1085
+1084
 01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:39,880
 The commissioner and the whole point of
 Bobby SEALs coming there would be for him
 
-1086
+1085
 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,420
 to bless and support and urge the inmates
 
-1087
+1086
 01:05:43,420 --> 01:05:45,130
 to accept them.
 
-1088
+1087
 01:05:50,310 --> 01:05:50,600
 Bobby
 
-1089
+1088
 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,600
 Seale was our hero
 because he was speaking out
 
-1090
+1089
 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,810
 about the brutality
 that was happening in the prison system.
 
-1091
+1090
 01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:59,730
 He was doing what we were trying to leave.
 
-1092
+1091
 01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:00,980
 He was a panther.
 
-1093
+1092
 01:06:00,980 --> 01:06:02,820
 The second in command.
 
-1094
+1093
 01:06:02,820 --> 01:06:05,780
 I really thought it would help us out
 of everything
 
-1095
+1094
 01:06:05,820 --> 01:06:08,240
 we ever demand.
 
-1096
+1095
 01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:12,750
 Bobby didn't stay long.
 
-1097
+1096
 01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:17,540
 Bobby to stay long, came up to it and go
 shake table was made a little speech.
 
-1098
+1097
 01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:19,750
 You walk around your.
 
-1099
+1098
 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,630
 Well, we won't read about the jail.
 
-1100
+1099
 01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:26,050
 A lot of times we're going back in time.
 
-1101
+1100
 01:06:26,090 --> 01:06:28,340
 It was quite a letdown.
 
-1102
+1101
 01:06:28,340 --> 01:06:32,390
 There is no remember me
 at all, about three minutes.
 
-1103
+1102
 01:06:35,350 --> 01:06:37,100
 At that point,
 
-1104
+1103
 01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:40,440
 everybody's just sitting around
 waiting for something to happen.
 
-1105
+1104
 01:06:44,990 --> 01:06:47,780
 But then Billy Quinn died.
 
-1106
+1105
 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,700
 And that transformed everything
 
-1107
+1106
 01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:54,660
 the state prison in Attica,
 New York, is at the crisis point.
 
-1108
+1107
 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,710
 The death of one of the guards as harden
 the position of prison officials
 
-1109
+1108
 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,710
 and there are
 you don't get amnesty for a murder.
 
-1110
+1109
 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,460
 I immediately knew.
 
-1111
+1110
 01:07:07,470 --> 01:07:08,840
 That the
 
-1112
+1111
 01:07:10,010 --> 01:07:11,510
 process of negotiations
 
-1113
+1112
 01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:13,970
 just became far more difficult.
 
-1114
+1113
 01:07:15,060 --> 01:07:16,680
 I knew that was.
 
-1115
+1114
 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,730
 I was the worst
 possible thing that could happen.
 
-1116
+1115
 01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:23,440
 How could they peacefully negotiate?
 
-1117
+1116
 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,700
 With inmates
 who they held responsible for the death
 
-1118
+1117
 01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:29,660
 of a guard.
 
-1119
+1118
 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,830
 Prior to his passing on.
 
-1120
+1119
 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,210
 There was a hope and even an expectation
 
-1121
+1120
 01:07:41,170 --> 01:07:43,710
 because people were listening.
 
-1122
+1121
 01:07:43,710 --> 01:07:46,420
 People were coming to understand
 what we had been living through
 
-1123
+1122
 01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:50,340
 and suffering as prisoners there.
 
-1124
+1123
 01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:54,350
 We know that it was a new ball
 
-1125
+1124
 01:07:54,350 --> 01:07:57,430
 game was depression.
 
-1126
+1125
 01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:58,810
 And fear.
 
-1127
+1126
 01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:02,770
 And, you know, anxiety and yeah,
 
-1128
+1127
 01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:05,940
 everything you can imagine.
 
-1129
+1128
 01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:08,990
 We had to drop a lot of issues
 
-1130
+1129
 01:08:08,990 --> 01:08:11,030
 and focus on amnesty
 
-1131
+1130
 01:08:11,030 --> 01:08:13,740
 as one as the main issue
 
-1132
+1131
 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,910
 because we want to be charged
 
-1133
+1132
 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,250
 with murder.
 
-1134
+1133
 01:08:19,250 --> 01:08:20,660
 We said.
 
-1135
+1134
 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,540
 As a group.
 
-1136
+1135
 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:26,000
 That we was going
 
-1137
+1136
 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,170
 to stay in solidarity with anyone.
 
-1138
+1137
 01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:32,630
 They could not give amnesty to everybody.
 
-1139
+1138
 01:08:32,970 --> 01:08:36,140
 Then was not going to leave
 anyone in the clutch in
 
-1140
+1139
 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,980
 to take a towing back on the bus
 or speak to take this.
 
-1141
+1140
 01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:45,190
 We acted together
 that we understood that this was us,
 
-1142
+1141
 01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:48,780
 that if we didn't stand together now,
 we never would.
 
-1143
+1142
 01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:49,820
 And it would.
 
-1144
+1143
 01:08:49,820 --> 01:08:52,910
 We would live
 like dogs for the rest of our lives.
 
-1145
+1144
 01:08:55,490 --> 01:08:57,580
 We understood that.
 
-1146
+1145
 01:08:57,580 --> 01:09:02,460
 Did I wish that we could somehow
 back away, but not without amnesty?
 
-1147
+1146
 01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:04,500
 How do the inmates feel
 about the current situation?
 
-1148
+1147
 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,210
 I will.
 
-1149
+1148
 01:09:06,210 --> 01:09:08,880
 A group of us were in with the inmates.
 
-1150
+1149
 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,670
 We met with them.
 
-1151
+1150
 01:09:10,670 --> 01:09:13,220
 We had two and a half hours.
 
-1152
+1151
 01:09:13,220 --> 01:09:14,590
 Some of the people are here,
 
-1153
+1152
 01:09:14,590 --> 01:09:18,100
 but we really have nothing to say about
 it, except they are firm in their demands.
 
-1154
+1153
 01:09:18,430 --> 01:09:19,680
 And that's it.
 
-1155
+1154
 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:20,270
 In other words,
 
-1156
+1155
 01:09:20,270 --> 01:09:23,390
 they're not going to let the hostages
 go until they're granted total amnesty.
 
-1157
+1156
 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,650
 That was their last position.
 
-1158
+1157
 01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:33,820
 The flag at half staff
 for the injured guard who had died
 
-1159
+1158
 01:09:33,820 --> 01:09:35,910
 the night before
 set the mood this morning,
 
-1160
+1159
 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,910
 it was clear that the troubles of this
 troubled prison had grown worse.
 
-1161
+1160
 01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:42,120
 That Sunday,
 you had that fall that came over
 
-1162
+1161
 01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:44,750
 and it was a certain chill in the air.
 
-1163
+1162
 01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:47,750
 Something didn't feel right.
 
-1164
+1163
 01:09:47,750 --> 01:09:49,710
 It didn't feel right.
 
-1165
+1164
 01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:52,550
 There are strong indications tonight
 that police will be sent
 
-1166
+1165
 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:56,140
 into the cellblock in an attempt
 to rescue the rest of the hostages
 
-1167
+1166
 01:09:56,140 --> 01:09:57,260
 by force.
 
-1168
+1167
 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,480
 Water was cut off.
 
-1169
+1168
 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,810
 Food was getting scarce.
 
-1170
+1169
 01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:09,060
 Patients were getting shot
 and people were totally
 
-1171
+1170
 01:10:10,190 --> 01:10:12,280
 wondering what is going to be the outcome
 
-1172
+1171
 01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:15,030
 of the situation.
 
-1173
+1172
 01:10:22,370 --> 01:10:24,960
 There was enormous pressure,
 and I witnessed
 
-1174
+1173
 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:29,710
 that as I took a breather
 and went out to the public space
 
-1175
+1174
 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,300
 just outside the prison,
 where a lot of correction
 
-1176
+1175
 01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:37,720
 officers, their families, troopers
 and other officials
 
-1177
+1176
 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,640
 were gathered together.
 
-1178
+1177
 01:10:40,930 --> 01:10:43,470
 I mean,
 the news was completely about that.
 
-1179
+1178
 01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:46,640
 You know that the state troopers
 and everybody were poised
 
-1180
+1179
 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,560
 on the top looking and
 
-1181
+1180
 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,480
 it was all about these rumors
 
-1182
+1181
 01:10:52,650 --> 01:10:56,950
 that the prisoners were castrating
 
-1183
+1182
 01:10:56,950 --> 01:11:01,450
 the hostages,
 that they were torturing them.
 
-1184
+1183
 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,540
 And it's going to end in bloodshed.
 
-1185
+1184
 01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:08,960
 And that was the storyline
 that was terrifying, people.
 
-1186
+1185
 01:11:09,670 --> 01:11:11,170
 Could you turn around
 this way to the camera?
 
-1187
+1186
 01:11:11,170 --> 01:11:13,710
 I think I did a few interviews
 
-1188
+1187
 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,170
 and the people were
 
-1189
+1188
 01:11:16,170 --> 01:11:20,760
 made it very clear
 that these are bad people in there and
 
-1190
+1189
 01:11:21,850 --> 01:11:23,430
 they shouldn't be doing this.
 
-1191
+1190
 01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:25,600
 You know, they should be taken care of.
 
-1192
+1191
 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:26,850
 You know what I mean?
 
-1193
+1192
 01:11:26,850 --> 01:11:28,770
 And hang them and
 
-1194
+1193
 01:11:28,810 --> 01:11:29,940
 crazy stuff.
 
-1195
+1194
 01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:32,310
 I mean, they're just really crazy.
 
-1196
+1195
 01:11:32,690 --> 01:11:35,190
 It was a very hostile environment.
 
-1197
+1196
 01:11:35,230 --> 01:11:36,400
 And I just
 
-1198
+1197
 01:11:36,820 --> 01:11:39,110
 don't I
 
-1199
+1198
 01:11:40,530 --> 01:11:42,990
 don't think that Jaime,
 I'll stick up your hand.
 
-1200
+1199
 01:11:43,870 --> 01:11:47,080
 I'm a father of eight children
 and my boy is the oldest,
 
-1201
+1200
 01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:50,580
 and I wouldn't
 want to see any one of them die.
 
-1202
+1201
 01:11:50,580 --> 01:11:52,580
 Whatever he is going to die,
 
-1203
+1202
 01:11:52,580 --> 01:11:55,840
 I want that whole damn thing
 bound right to hell. OK.
 
-1204
+1203
 01:11:57,010 --> 01:12:00,510
 And while we're talking went
 on, the state police
 
-1205
+1204
 01:12:00,510 --> 01:12:04,050
 kept reinforcing
 at least 500 men in and out of the wall.
 
-1206
+1205
 01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:08,100
 No indication that any of this force
 will be used at the police already.
 
-1207
+1206
 01:12:09,390 --> 01:12:09,940
 Well, any
 
-1208
+1207
 01:12:09,940 --> 01:12:15,230
 time you went in and out of the prison,
 there was an army
 
-1209
+1208
 01:12:15,690 --> 01:12:21,780
 and they were armed
 with every conceivable type of weapon .
 
-1210
+1209
 01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:25,120
 And it really looked like
 
-1211
+1210
 01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:28,370
 they wanted to use those weapons.
 
-1212
+1211
 01:12:28,410 --> 01:12:31,540
 You had the sense of their anger
 
-1213
+1212
 01:12:31,540 --> 01:12:33,580
 and they've been held back and
 
-1214
+1213
 01:12:37,670 --> 01:12:39,090
 they wanted to move.
 
-1215
+1214
 01:12:39,090 --> 01:12:42,760
 They wanted to to to attack.
 
-1216
+1215
 01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:49,890
 Yeah, they were very impatient,
 
-1217
+1216
 01:12:49,890 --> 01:12:51,440
 very unhappy.
 
-1218
+1217
 01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:56,940
 They were all thrown into a situation
 in which they are not prepared for
 
-1219
+1218
 01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:01,450
 and about which
 they had basically an animosity.
 
-1220
+1219
 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,160
 And I wish to
 
-1221
+1220
 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,040
 would any of the men that a lot us off
 the roof?
 
-1222
+1221
 01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:14,210
 Adobe that group is out of here because
 if you get these shaky guy shooting off
 
-1223
+1222
 01:13:14,210 --> 01:13:18,340
 or getting up, and all of a sudden
 somebody is going to get excited
 
-1224
+1223
 01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:21,720
 and then we're all going to say now,
 this is not a joke.
 
-1225
+1224
 01:13:22,420 --> 01:13:23,130
 This is not
 
-1226
+1225
 01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:26,760
 some kind of a little tea party
 we've got here.
 
-1227
+1226
 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,350
 And I just hope that the commissioner
 
-1228
+1227
 01:13:29,810 --> 01:13:32,480
 and the other people in the committee
 that they've gathered together
 
-1229
+1228
 01:13:34,190 --> 01:13:36,980
 can come up with a solution
 
-1230
+1229
 01:13:36,980 --> 01:13:39,860
 to solve these people's problems
 
-1231
+1230
 01:13:39,860 --> 01:13:40,820
 and ours.
 
-1232
+1231
 01:13:41,070 --> 01:13:42,690
 Thank you very much.
 
-1233
+1232
 01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:49,700
 Late Sunday afternoon,
 
-1234
+1233
 01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:53,290
 Commissioner Oswald
 and the officials were prepared
 
-1235
+1234
 01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:57,040
 and intended to retaking.
 
-1236
+1235
 01:13:57,670 --> 01:14:00,340
 But I pressed Israel to agree
 
-1237
+1236
 01:14:01,130 --> 01:14:03,590
 to give them until 7:00 on Monday
 
-1238
+1237
 01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:05,970
 morning, by Sunday morning,
 everything else had failed.
 
-1239
+1238
 01:14:07,390 --> 01:14:12,640
 And so the the the final shot
 
-1240
+1239
 01:14:13,060 --> 01:14:15,850
 was going to be
 to try to get the Roc-A-Fella.
 
-1241
+1240
 01:14:17,060 --> 01:14:21,230
 And there was there was a committee
 of people put together to do that.
 
-1242
+1241
 01:14:21,940 --> 01:14:22,610
 Good morning.
 
-1243
+1242
 01:14:24,150 --> 01:14:26,780
 We wanted four friends of the governor
 
-1244
+1243
 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:29,450
 to call him and please as your friend.
 
-1245
+1244
 01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:33,950
 Let me ask you to come to Attica,
 not to meet with the prisoners,
 
-1246
+1245
 01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:37,960
 but to come and lay your hand
 on approving these measures,
 
-1247
+1246
 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,460
 Sergeant Cunningham.
 
-1248
+1247
 01:14:40,460 --> 01:14:42,550
 Now, would you give us a message
 
-1249
+1248
 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,130
 for Governor Nelson Rockefeller?
 
-1250
+1249
 01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:47,590
 I certainly would.
 
-1251
+1250
 01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:51,100
 one of the recommendations is
 and he said, No, I'm dead.
 
-1252
+1251
 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,310
 I and some of my fellow members
 of the Service Committee felt
 
-1253
+1252
 01:14:55,310 --> 01:15:00,440
 very strongly that if Governor Rockefeller
 were to come to and identify
 
-1254
+1253
 01:15:00,650 --> 01:15:04,400
 with finding a solution,
 it might have broken the logjam.
 
-1255
+1254
 01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:09,200
 So I placed the call, the governor
 Rockefeller, somewhere around 3:00.
 
-1256
+1255
 01:15:09,530 --> 01:15:13,030
 Governor, what about your
 personal feelings right now?
 
-1257
+1256
 01:15:13,330 --> 01:15:15,790
 On one level, it was a Hail Mary.
 
-1258
+1257
 01:15:15,790 --> 01:15:18,790
 On the other level
 it was more than a Hail Mary.
 
-1259
+1258
 01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:21,130
 These were prominent people.
 
-1260
+1259
 01:15:23,090 --> 01:15:27,970
 People
 that you would think Rockefeller respected
 
-1261
+1260
 01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:33,050
 making a sincere pitch come up here,
 you don't have to go in.
 
-1262
+1261
 01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:37,270
 You don't have to agree to anything
 your presence will have mean.
 
-1263
+1262
 01:15:38,190 --> 01:15:41,310
 Maybe if he came, that would be an opening
 
-1264
+1263
 01:15:41,310 --> 01:15:45,030
 that would have allowed us to negotiate.
 
-1265
+1264
 01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:45,690
 Maybe.
 
-1266
+1265
 01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:47,900
 Some other
 
-1267
+1266
 01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:52,410
 negotiators could be brought in
 who would help the negotiation,
 
-1268
+1267
 01:15:52,410 --> 01:15:55,080
 maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
 
-1269
+1268
 01:15:55,740 --> 01:15:58,960
 But no known donor or man.
 
-1270
+1269
 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,040
 Death, death, death, death.
 
-1271
+1270
 01:16:01,790 --> 01:16:05,130
 Prisoners had been demanding from the very
 beginning that I come into the yard,
 
-1272
+1271
 01:16:05,710 --> 01:16:09,090
 and I frankly felt
 that the idea of governors
 
-1273
+1272
 01:16:10,090 --> 01:16:14,010
 any time there was an uprising
 or any time there was a prisoner
 
-1274
+1273
 01:16:14,010 --> 01:16:18,640
 taken on a prisoner, but a hostage
 taking being involved in the negotiation,
 
-1275
+1274
 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,140
 the next thing would be, we don't want
 the governor, we want the president,
 
-1276
+1275
 01:16:21,850 --> 01:16:24,900
 and we get to a situation
 with an impossible one for this country.
 
-1277
+1276
 01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:28,190
 By the time they spoke to him,
 he had made up his mind.
 
-1278
+1277
 01:16:29,190 --> 01:16:31,990
 He listened carefully,
 he listened politely.
 
-1279
+1278
 01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:35,120
 But by then, he had made up his mind.
 
-1280
+1279
 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,750
 We didn't understand the background of us
 
-1281
+1280
 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:44,960
 having consulted on an ongoing basis
 during those days with the White House,
 
-1282
+1281
 01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:49,170
 the administration in Washington
 encouraged Rockey
 
-1283
+1282
 01:16:49,170 --> 01:16:51,590
 to take a strong hard line position,
 
-1284
+1283
 01:16:52,340 --> 01:16:54,550
 which was unfortunate.
 
-1285
+1284
 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,220
 It was all a part of President Nixon's
 law and order agenda.
 
-1286
+1285
 01:16:58,810 --> 01:17:01,480
 They were putting the pressure
 yesterday on me all day
 
-1287
+1286
 01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:05,270
 to go up there and it up
 because everything else had failed.
 
-1288
+1287
 01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:06,480
 And did you go?
 
-1289
+1288
 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,530
 Of course not. Of course not.
 
-1290
+1289
 01:17:08,530 --> 01:17:09,480
 But I had the time.
 
-1291
+1290
 01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,860
 Rockefeller wasn't calling the shots.
 
-1292
+1291
 01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:14,950
 Because he was on the phone.
 
-1293
+1292
 01:17:16,410 --> 01:17:19,290
 With Richard Nixon.
 
-1294
+1293
 01:17:20,750 --> 01:17:24,290
 Rockefeller wanted to be president.
 
-1295
+1294
 01:17:24,290 --> 01:17:26,130
 But the word on him was that
 
-1296
+1295
 01:17:26,130 --> 01:17:28,300
 he was too soft on crime.
 
-1297
+1296
 01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:31,420
 Where was he recommending amnesty?
 
-1298
+1297
 01:17:31,420 --> 01:17:32,090
 Oh, yes.
 
-1299
+1298
 01:17:32,130 --> 01:17:35,760
 Oh God, I tell you, is
 
-1300
+1299
 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,970
 this was the great this is separated
 the sheep from the goats.
 
-1301
+1300
 01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:46,310
 And if he wanted the support of Nixon
 and the Republican Party, then
 
-1302
+1301
 01:17:47,610 --> 01:17:49,820
 he needs to go along.
 
-1303
+1302
 01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:52,440
 And so he wouldn't come.
 
-1304
+1303
 01:17:57,780 --> 01:17:59,120
 You know, not that Rockefeller
 
-1305
+1304
 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,330
 wasn't coming in.
 
-1306
+1305
 01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:05,080
 It's like slamming the door on you.
 
-1307
+1306
 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,790
 You know, I slammed the door
 and we were locked in this room
 
-1308
+1307
 01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:10,800
 and we didn't know what to do.
 
-1309
+1308
 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,720
 You were to a great degree,
 
-1310
+1309
 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,550
 despondent
 that we had no solution to this.
 
-1311
+1310
 01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,310
 We didn't know what to do.
 
-1312
+1311
 01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:23,640
 Made one last chance
 to convince the inmates
 
-1313
+1312
 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,350
 to surrender.
 
-1314
+1313
 01:18:30,610 --> 01:18:33,070
 That last night, Cell Block D.
 
-1315
+1314
 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,200
 As we were trying to negotiate.
 
-1316
+1315
 01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:41,490
 Demands that we thought.
 
-1317
+1316
 01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:44,200
 But realistic.
 
-1318
+1317
 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,960
 Was. A come to Jesus moment.
 
-1319
+1318
 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,300
 This is what you wanted the demands.
 
-1320
+1319
 01:18:56,130 --> 01:18:58,550
 This is what we were able to achieve.
 
-1321
+1320
 01:18:58,550 --> 01:19:01,300
 This is where we stand now.
 
-1322
+1321
 01:19:03,890 --> 01:19:06,390
 I'm not going to mislead you.
 
-1323
+1322
 01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:08,600
 And believe
 that you can get anything better.
 
-1324
+1323
 01:19:09,650 --> 01:19:11,560
 I do not believe you can get
 
-1325
+1324
 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,150
 anything better.
 
-1326
+1325
 01:19:14,980 --> 01:19:16,280
 I think we have to make
 
-1327
+1326
 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,820
 a peaceful accommodation.
 
-1328
+1327
 01:19:20,740 --> 01:19:24,490
 Ready to be shot down like dogs.
 
-1329
+1328
 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:28,540
 I said this is what we achieved. OK.
 
-1330
+1329
 01:19:30,250 --> 01:19:32,420
 And turn around, look,
 
-1331
+1330
 01:19:32,420 --> 01:19:36,550
 cellblock, then you see all those guns
 there, just waiting to kill us.
 
-1332
+1331
 01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:38,050
 They want to kill us.
 
-1333
+1332
 01:19:38,050 --> 01:19:41,050
 Do you understand that they want to show
 
-1334
+1333
 01:19:41,220 --> 01:19:44,010
 that they have the power
 from the barrel of a gun?
 
-1335
+1334
 01:19:44,060 --> 01:19:45,520
 That's what they want to do.
 
-1336
+1335
 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,270
 Oh God, I don't know
 what's happening to me.
 
-1337
+1336
 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,310
 We were warned by the observers
 
-1338
+1337
 01:19:51,310 --> 01:19:55,230
 that if we didn't settle,
 even without the amnesty,
 
-1339
+1338
 01:19:55,780 --> 01:19:59,200
 they were going to come in
 and it could get very bad.
 
-1340
+1339
 01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:05,660
 And of course, we talked among ourselves,
 and we just couldn't
 
-1341
+1340
 01:20:06,410 --> 01:20:09,460
 go without the amnesty
 because it would have been literally
 
-1342
+1341
 01:20:10,250 --> 01:20:11,670
 sending all our leaders.
 
-1343
+1342
 01:20:13,540 --> 01:20:15,960
 To the dogs to be
 
-1344
+1343
 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,720
 tortured, murdered.
 
-1345
+1344
 01:20:19,550 --> 01:20:21,930
 Convicted of crimes and
 
-1346
+1345
 01:20:21,930 --> 01:20:23,970
 who knows what else, we had observed
 
-1347
+1346
 01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:28,850
 the organization
 and preparation of the troopers to enter.
 
-1348
+1347
 01:20:29,020 --> 01:20:31,850
 Hundreds of them with their shotguns
 
-1349
+1348
 01:20:31,850 --> 01:20:35,610
 just outside the immediate
 area of the yard.
 
-1350
+1349
 01:20:36,190 --> 01:20:40,820
 We witness the stationing of sharpshooters
 on one of the ledges
 
-1351
+1350
 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,320
 looking down into DAAD.
 
-1352
+1351
 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,740
 Fear overtook the observers committee.
 
-1353
+1352
 01:20:51,790 --> 01:20:54,170
 It seemed like they felt
 something was going to happen.
 
-1354
+1353
 01:20:54,830 --> 01:20:56,340
 They were more.
 
-1355
+1354
 01:20:57,500 --> 01:21:00,300
 Hesitant to leave,
 they left with a solemn mood.
 
-1356
+1355
 01:21:00,340 --> 01:21:02,510
 He left us with a solemn like.
 
-1357
+1356
 01:21:04,180 --> 01:21:07,600
 But is this better, just take care.
 
-1358
+1357
 01:21:10,140 --> 01:21:12,480
 I remember seeing them leave, and,
 
-1359
+1358
 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:16,400
 you know,
 it was a scary moment to see them leaving,
 
-1360
+1359
 01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:18,980
 you know,
 knowing that there wasn't coming back.
 
-1361
+1360
 01:21:22,570 --> 01:21:23,400
 I remember
 
-1362
+1361
 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,910
 Big Black saying, I want to thank you
 for what you guys tried to do.
 
-1363
+1362
 01:21:27,950 --> 01:21:30,790
 We really appreciate it.
 So there was a lot of that.
 
-1364
+1363
 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,290
 When we went out of
 
-1365
+1364
 01:21:33,290 --> 01:21:36,670
 that yard that night.
 
-1366
+1365
 01:21:37,090 --> 01:21:38,500
 There were tears.
 
-1367
+1366
 01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:40,420
 Tears.
 
-1368
+1367
 01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:45,010
 And I think all of us were hoping
 
-1369
+1368
 01:21:45,010 --> 01:21:47,140
 that something happened
 at the last minute.
 
-1370
+1369
 01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:49,430
 Stop it.
 
-1371
+1370
 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,270
 I felt complete failure,
 
-1372
+1371
 01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:57,650
 a failure that I had let them down.
 
-1373
+1372
 01:21:59,730 --> 01:22:03,110
 one of the most painful things.
 
-1374
+1373
 01:22:03,190 --> 01:22:06,160
 As inmates begin to.
 
-1375
+1374
 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,450
 Hand me
 written notes, the telephone number.
 
-1376
+1375
 01:22:10,910 --> 01:22:14,080
 Of their of their
 
-1377
+1376
 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,540
 next of kin.
 
-1378
+1377
 01:22:16,460 --> 01:22:18,790
 In case they didn't make it OK.
 
-1379
+1378
 01:22:19,380 --> 01:22:21,090
 They wanted me.
 
-1380
+1379
 01:22:21,090 --> 01:22:24,050
 They they I mean, a couple of them
 looked me in the eye with tears
 
-1381
+1380
 01:22:25,300 --> 01:22:27,300
 for the Jones, but I don't make it.
 
-1382
+1381
 01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:28,930
 You're going to call right.
 
-1383
+1382
 01:22:28,930 --> 01:22:31,260
 I said, You have my word.
 
-1384
+1383
 01:22:31,970 --> 01:22:34,350
 I will call you
 
-1385
+1384
 01:22:35,390 --> 01:22:38,690
 any way optimistic that this thing
 could be settled by tomorrow.
 
-1386
+1385
 01:22:38,980 --> 01:22:42,530
 I think I'm much too tired to be either
 optimistic or pessimistic at this moment.
 
-1387
+1386
 01:22:42,530 --> 01:22:44,860
 I'm kind of just freaked out.
 
-1388
+1387
 01:22:56,540 --> 01:22:58,290
 Randall, I know
 
-1389
+1388
 01:22:58,370 --> 01:23:00,920
 it didn't stop ran until about
 
-1390
+1389
 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,960
 six in the morning.
 
-1391
+1390
 01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,760
 Cold Mountain, right?
 
-1392
+1391
 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:12,390
 And we were not prepared
 for those little hunches that we had the
 
-1393
+1392
 01:23:13,060 --> 01:23:15,600
 that people had built a yard up
 
-1394
+1393
 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,020
 in every day,
 all alone started collapsing.
 
-1395
+1394
 01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:21,060
 And you had to get on
 
-1396
+1395
 01:23:21,730 --> 01:23:25,820
 solid ground concrete and huddled together
 
-1397
+1396
 01:23:26,110 --> 01:23:29,200
 because everybody was shivering
 and everything else.
 
-1398
+1397
 01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:32,830
 It was a miserable night,
 one of the miserable nights
 
-1399
+1398
 01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:35,040
 I ever spent in my life.
 
-1400
+1399
 01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:40,920
 I could feel the tension in the air,
 the tension was so strong
 
-1401
+1400
 01:23:41,170 --> 01:23:43,880
 that I could just basically grab it
 and hold on to it
 
-1402
+1401
 01:23:45,050 --> 01:23:46,170
 . Am I going to make it?
 
-1403
+1402
 01:23:46,170 --> 01:23:48,630
 Am I going to to this?
 
-1404
+1403
 01:23:48,630 --> 01:23:53,760
 And that tension was so strong I could touch it, I could cut improperly in my hand.
 
-1405
+1404
 01:23:56,850 --> 01:23:59,310
 There was an air.
 
-1406
+1405
 01:24:03,770 --> 01:24:06,110
 We've been out there for about four days.
 
-1407
+1406
 01:24:06,110 --> 01:24:08,610
 Wake up that morning and it's
 
-1408
+1407
 01:24:08,610 --> 01:24:11,070
 wet and dreary out there,
 
-1409
+1408
 01:24:11,070 --> 01:24:14,450
 and you could always smell the fumes
 
-1410
+1409
 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,200
 of Guy's body
 in that trench that we dug in the yard.
 
-1411
+1410
 01:24:18,410 --> 01:24:20,250
 You use the bathroom.
 
-1412
+1411
 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:22,960
 Right there in front of You
 Breathe initiative nowadays,
 
-1413
+1412
 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,960
 so you want out.
 
-1414
+1413
 01:24:28,380 --> 01:24:30,260
 What was really bad?
 
-1415
+1414
 01:24:30,260 --> 01:24:33,260
 People's moods was that way, and
 
-1416
+1415
 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:34,510
 it was crowded.
 
-1417
+1416
 01:24:34,510 --> 01:24:37,020
 It started to rain a little bit.
 
-1418
+1417
 01:24:37,020 --> 01:24:38,140
 You know, it was dog.
 
-1419
+1418
 01:24:38,140 --> 01:24:40,850
 The sky was dark gray.
 
-1420
+1419
 01:24:44,020 --> 01:24:44,650
 We heard that
 
-1421
+1420
 01:24:44,650 --> 01:24:46,770
 we would be part of a medical evacuation.
 
-1422
+1421
 01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:50,530
 And early on Monday morning,
 
-1423
+1422
 01:24:50,530 --> 01:24:52,950
 we loaded into trucks
 and headed for Attica prison.
 
-1424
+1423
 01:24:56,370 --> 01:24:58,450
 In the three years
 that I was in the National Guard,
 
-1425
+1424
 01:24:58,450 --> 01:25:02,580
 I had not seen any kind of action
 in which violence was involved.
 
-1426
+1425
 01:25:03,540 --> 01:25:05,500
 But we had a sense of dread,
 
-1427
+1426
 01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:08,210
 and we had a wish
 that we could kind of not go.
 
-1428
+1427
 01:25:09,460 --> 01:25:12,760
 And there was the hope,
 even at the last minute, that
 
-1429
+1428
 01:25:13,470 --> 01:25:15,970
 by some miracle, maybe
 
-1430
+1429
 01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:19,390
 Rockefeller would intervene.
 
-1431
+1430
 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,730
 His refusal to come
 
-1432
+1431
 01:25:21,730 --> 01:25:25,860
 here is a monstrosity, because what he is
 saying is kill these men.
 
-1433
+1432
 01:25:26,110 --> 01:25:27,940
 I have no concern.
 
-1434
+1433
 01:25:27,940 --> 01:25:31,240
 All I want to do
 is assault, law and order,
 
-1435
+1434
 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,990
 and I think that's a rotten
 in exchange for life.
 
-1436
+1435
 01:25:35,570 --> 01:25:37,580
 And we got to the prison
 
-1437
+1436
 01:25:37,580 --> 01:25:41,830
 and saw the lines of state troopers
 and deputies
 
-1438
+1437
 01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:45,540
 with their raincoats
 on and their weapons in hand.
 
-1439
+1438
 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,920
 They looked exhausted.
 
-1440
+1439
 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,300
 They had been there, many of them
 for a couple of days at least,
 
-1441
+1440
 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,260
 and they really didn't look up to the
 task that was given to them.
 
-1442
+1441
 01:26:03,310 --> 01:26:05,350
 He was coming in, you could tell.
 
-1443
+1442
 01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:08,270
 You can see them starting to get
 more people I wasn't able to count on.
 
-1444
+1443
 01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:11,730
 What I saw was.
 
-1445
+1444
 01:26:15,820 --> 01:26:18,870
 We got another matches
 to put up on that table committee, there's
 
-1446
+1445
 01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:22,750
 going to be rubber bullets
 and I say that's what that's
 
-1447
+1446
 01:26:22,750 --> 01:26:24,960
 what the word was.
 
-1448
+1447
 01:26:27,460 --> 01:26:29,960
 I thought they were going to be
 a real old fashioned game for you.
 
-1449
+1448
 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,380
 David, you want to call it,
 you know them versus us.
 
-1450
+1449
 01:26:32,630 --> 01:26:33,800
 They've got the crowd.
 
-1451
+1450
 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,680
 We've got a few bats and stuff in here,
 so we're going to
 
-1452
+1451
 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,640
 best guy win.
 
-1453
+1452
 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,350
 We started making preparations
 
-1454
+1453
 01:26:44,350 --> 01:26:47,350
 and putting Vaseline
 on every part of our body
 
-1455
+1454
 01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:50,570
 that could be exposed to gas
 and get burnt and stuff like that
 
-1456
+1455
 01:26:51,730 --> 01:26:53,900
 padding ourselves with clothes.
 
-1457
+1456
 01:26:57,820 --> 01:26:58,780
 Somebody saying
 
-1458
+1457
 01:26:58,780 --> 01:27:01,410
 if they come in here,
 then that's good because I know my sheik.
 
-1459
+1458
 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,120
 It became apparent to me
 
-1460
+1459
 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,540
 that the situation
 was seriously deteriorating
 
-1461
+1460
 01:27:09,380 --> 01:27:13,250
 and that the inmates,
 many of whom are confined to this maximum
 
-1462
+1461
 01:27:13,250 --> 01:27:17,220
 security facility
 under light and long sentences.
 
-1463
+1462
 01:27:18,050 --> 01:27:21,640
 We're not going to participate
 in a reasonable negotiation.
 
-1464
+1463
 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,770
 Tensions within the walls
 
-1465
+1464
 01:27:24,770 --> 01:27:27,230
 have steadily increased.
 
-1466
+1465
 01:27:27,230 --> 01:27:29,480
 The action now underway
 
-1467
+1466
 01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:31,770
 was initiated with extreme reluctance
 
-1468
+1467
 01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:36,240
 only after all, attempts to achieve
 
-1469
+1468
 01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:40,820
 a peaceful solution failed.
 
-1470
+1469
 01:27:40,990 --> 01:27:43,240
 We were told that our mission
 was protection
 
-1471
+1470
 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,120
 for the medical battalion
 during the commander's briefing.
 
-1472
+1471
 01:27:47,330 --> 01:27:49,460
 We were told that to our knowledge,
 
-1473
+1472
 01:27:50,170 --> 01:27:52,840
 the inmates had no guns.
 
-1474
+1473
 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,090
 They had Spears.
 
-1475
+1474
 01:27:54,090 --> 01:27:56,340
 They had some knives.
 
-1476
+1475
 01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:59,380
 They had pipes
 that they were using as clubs.
 
-1477
+1476
 01:28:00,010 --> 01:28:02,390
 But that was the extent of the threat.
 
-1478
+1477
 01:28:02,850 --> 01:28:05,390
 So we knew that going in for,
 
-1479
+1478
 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:07,930
 you know, 5:00 a.m.
 
-1480
+1479
 01:28:07,930 --> 01:28:11,440
 September 13, we're on the roof of a block
 
-1481
+1480
 01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:14,980
 waiting for the assault to begin.
 
-1482
+1481
 01:28:14,980 --> 01:28:17,360
 This is a team of 270 rifle shooters.
 
-1483
+1482
 01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:22,530
 The center of our pictures, men
 distributing
 
-1484
+1483
 01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:24,830
 baseball bats to the other prisoners.
 
-1485
+1484
 01:28:25,490 --> 01:28:28,250
 We had no guns. We had no real weapons.
 
-1486
+1485
 01:28:28,250 --> 01:28:32,630
 We had bullshit pieces of stick
 or a piece of iron
 
-1487
+1486
 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,210
 or shank
 that somebody made up on the sidewalk.
 
-1488
+1487
 01:28:37,630 --> 01:28:40,380
 It was. It was pathetic.
 
-1489
+1488
 01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:45,100
 Just four days, almost to the minute
 after the convict insurrection started,
 
-1490
+1489
 01:28:45,430 --> 01:28:49,060
 state police reinforced by sheriff's
 deputies, National Guardsmen
 
-1491
+1490
 01:28:49,310 --> 01:28:54,610
 and correctional officers moving in on
 the prison time is 150 5:00 p.m.
 
-1492
+1491
 01:28:54,610 --> 01:29:00,070
 We're on the roof of C Block
 looking at a detail of 270 marksmen
 
-1493
+1492
 01:29:00,610 --> 01:29:03,860
 with instructions
 to clear the catwalks upon command.
 
-1494
+1493
 01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:06,660
 They took some of the
 
-1495
+1494
 01:29:06,660 --> 01:29:12,120
 hostages on top of the catwalks,
 which is on top of the hallways,
 
-1496
+1495
 01:29:12,620 --> 01:29:17,670
 and some of the inmates held knives to the
 to their neck as a result.
 
-1497
+1496
 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,800
 In an effort to try to stop the assault,
 
-1498
+1497
 01:29:21,420 --> 01:29:25,220
 the hostages are armed with knives
 with their throats.
 
-1499
+1498
 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,680
 It was all just to show.
 
-1500
+1499
 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,350
 The try to get them to say, Oh,
 wait a minute, it's my cousin, my brother.
 
-1501
+1500
 01:29:32,690 --> 01:29:34,100
 All he's got.
 
-1502
+1501
 01:29:35,060 --> 01:29:38,150
 We were hopeful that if they saw this,
 they would back off
 
-1503
+1502
 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,610
 and try to renegotiate
 so they could protect their own people.
 
-1504
+1503
 01:29:45,410 --> 01:29:47,660
 The notion of sending
 
-1505
+1504
 01:29:47,660 --> 01:29:49,990
 in correctional officers
 
-1506
+1505
 01:29:50,910 --> 01:29:53,000
 who didn't love the prisoners
 to begin with
 
-1507
+1506
 01:29:53,790 --> 01:29:58,420
 and state police who were stressed
 out was a serious miscalculation,
 
-1508
+1507
 01:29:58,420 --> 01:30:02,210
 somebody should have said, wait a second,
 wait a second, these people are on edge.
 
-1509
+1508
 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,430
 There is hostility
 
-1510
+1509
 01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:11,520
 and it's going to get out of control.
 
-1511
+1510
 01:30:12,730 --> 01:30:15,480
 We know that now, did we know that
 
-1512
+1511
 01:30:16,020 --> 01:30:17,940
 in real time?
 
-1513
+1512
 01:30:19,690 --> 01:30:21,480
 I guess not.
 
-1514
+1513
 01:30:24,110 --> 01:30:27,110
 I seen this as a glorious fight.
 
-1515
+1514
 01:30:28,410 --> 01:30:30,660
 They would come in with batons
 
-1516
+1515
 01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:35,580
 and stuff like that,
 and we would be fighting the brave battle
 
-1517
+1516
 01:30:35,580 --> 01:30:39,090
 with baseball bats and stuff like that, I.
 
-1518
+1517
 01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:52,010
 I did.
 
-1519
+1518
 01:30:57,730 --> 01:31:00,440
 I just never expected.
 
-1520
+1519
 01:31:01,020 --> 01:31:03,650
 The the coverage through
 what actually happened,
 
-1521
+1520
 01:31:03,650 --> 01:31:04,990
 I'm sorry.
 
-1522
+1521
 01:31:20,210 --> 01:31:23,840
 Helicopter, two helicopters and a.
 
-1523
+1522
 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,260
 We're talking now going overhead
 
-1524
+1523
 01:31:30,260 --> 01:31:33,260
 and over the wall into the prison.
 
-1525
+1524
 01:31:34,350 --> 01:31:37,350
 It just disquieted,
 and Sky was getting dark,
 
-1526
+1525
 01:31:37,850 --> 01:31:40,100
 and then we heard
 the helicopters does a dance.
 
-1527
+1526
 01:31:40,810 --> 01:31:43,230
 This is fucking strange.
 
-1528
+1527
 01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:48,780
 The helicopter comes up over the wall
 
-1529
+1528
 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,820
 and it's hovering over the yard.
 
-1530
+1529
 01:31:54,740 --> 01:31:56,120
 I seen this.
 
-1531
+1530
 01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:57,960
 I thought it was a monster.
 
-1532
+1531
 01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,290
 It was a helicopter, a green helicopter.
 
-1533
+1532
 01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:02,000
 It was flying low.
 
-1534
+1533
 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,630
 You see this.
 
-1535
+1534
 01:32:09,630 --> 01:32:12,760
 It's like a sickly green gas with.
 
-1536
+1535
 01:32:13,470 --> 01:32:15,640
 Sparkly stuff, minute coming down.
 
-1537
+1536
 01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:18,810
 It tightens your chest.
 
-1538
+1537
 01:32:18,810 --> 01:32:21,440
 Where you can hardly breathe.
 
-1539
+1538
 01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:23,650
 That gas knocked me down.
 
-1540
+1539
 01:32:24,190 --> 01:32:26,730
 Oh, what that was.
 
-1541
+1540
 01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:29,110
 And they had me so weak I could not.
 
-1542
+1541
 01:32:29,860 --> 01:32:32,990
 Your eyes are just all burning,
 
-1543
+1542
 01:32:32,990 --> 01:32:35,450
 your nose is burning,
 your mouth is burning.
 
-1544
+1543
 01:32:42,540 --> 01:32:43,830
 I mean,
 
-1545
+1544
 01:32:44,290 --> 01:32:45,420
 we are.
 
-1546
+1545
 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,220
 And you got on the microphone,
 everybody in D-Block, yeah.
 
-1547
+1546
 01:32:52,260 --> 01:32:54,760
 Put your hands in the air.
 
-1548
+1547
 01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,390
 And you are not behind.
 
-1549
+1548
 01:32:56,390 --> 01:33:01,020
 Go to the nearest police officer
 and you will not be home.
 
-1550
+1549
 01:33:01,270 --> 01:33:04,440
 You would not be home. We will not be.
 
-1551
+1550
 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:06,690
 You would not be here for that was.
 
-1552
+1551
 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:17,160
 Do just ended up
 
-1553
+1552
 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,500
 doing this to get blown away.
 
-1554
+1553
 01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:24,210
 They blew his head off and then.
 
-1555
+1554
 01:33:24,210 --> 01:33:28,170
 Has all of a sudden
 there was all this popping all around us
 
-1556
+1555
 01:33:29,510 --> 01:33:31,130
 and all these little pops
 
-1557
+1556
 01:33:31,130 --> 01:33:34,930
 all around us were actually bullets.
 
-1558
+1557
 01:33:35,890 --> 01:33:40,560
 Oh, and you could really see
 because the CO2 public first heard
 
-1559
+1558
 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,730
 you blah, that you can hear the boom
 going by your ear.
 
-1560
+1559
 01:33:49,150 --> 01:33:52,320
 The hostages can't be seen in any.
 
-1561
+1560
 01:33:54,950 --> 01:33:57,320
 I'm trying to stay on the ground
 as long as possible,
 
-1562
+1561
 01:33:58,490 --> 01:34:00,660
 just like
 they were shooting down the barrel
 
-1563
+1562
 01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:04,500
 and they started shooting
 point blank range, blowing guys away .
 
-1564
+1563
 01:34:04,500 --> 01:34:08,090
 I got shot in the arm up there right
 through the back macroeconomist on.
 
-1565
+1564
 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,680
 I I felt something.
 
-1566
+1565
 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,310
 Go to my head,
 it must go, and it was burning,
 
-1567
+1566
 01:34:21,390 --> 01:34:22,770
 no was shot.
 
-1568
+1567
 01:34:22,770 --> 01:34:26,190
 I felt something hit my arm
 
-1569
+1568
 01:34:26,190 --> 01:34:28,810
 and we're all numb and realized needed.
 
-1570
+1569
 01:34:28,810 --> 01:34:31,940
 I got shot in the arm
 about two inches from my heart
 
-1571
+1570
 01:34:32,070 --> 01:34:36,360
 and also a one to a football helmet
 on Spanish food.
 
-1572
+1571
 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,700
 Now the guard is up on the catwalk.
 
-1573
+1572
 01:34:39,700 --> 01:34:44,120
 He jumps out with a hammer
 and throws it up and it hits the catwalk.
 
-1574
+1573
 01:34:44,660 --> 01:34:49,040
 And you can hear the sound clip
 and all of them turn looked at him,
 
-1575
+1574
 01:34:49,130 --> 01:34:53,590
 and all of them turn their guns
 on a brutal dashboard body.
 
-1576
+1575
 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,260
 I'm assuming that you guys got anywhere
 
-1577
+1576
 01:34:55,260 --> 01:34:59,180
 from 20 to 50 shots
 because his body was doing like that.
 
-1578
+1577
 01:34:59,180 --> 01:35:00,640
 I'd never seen no shit like that.
 
-1579
+1578
 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,640
 Not as a nasty shoot in the street.
 
-1580
+1579
 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:03,560
 I'd never seen them. I did.
 
-1581
+1580
 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,020
 I mean.
 
-1582
+1581
 01:35:10,810 --> 01:35:12,940
 This was a holiday for the.
 
-1583
+1582
 01:35:12,940 --> 01:35:16,070
 We got no guns to shoot back.
 
-1584
+1583
 01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:16,650
 You know what?
 
-1585
+1584
 01:35:16,650 --> 01:35:21,030
 It is a shoe store man and it's a shoe,
 but that's just a holiday
 
-1586
+1585
 01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:24,040
 slow motion and all it was
 
-1587
+1586
 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,620
 that was save money.
 
-1588
+1587
 01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:30,170
 That's what
 they will follow to each other.
 
-1589
+1588
 01:35:30,500 --> 01:35:32,130
 I was scared.
 
-1590
+1589
 01:35:33,550 --> 01:35:35,760
 I've done bad things,
 but I never did this bad.
 
-1591
+1590
 01:35:36,170 --> 01:35:37,260
 As no.
 
-1592
+1591
 01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:40,640
 These guys are real fucking cold blooded
 
-1593
+1592
 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,260
 killers and shit.
 
-1594
+1593
 01:35:43,930 --> 01:35:47,480
 Until that moment came,
 
-1595
+1594
 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,110
 what is killing really started,
 and I realize that
 
-1596
+1595
 01:35:52,150 --> 01:35:55,610
 you're not that fucking bad guy, no more,
 man, there's more power with his words
 
-1597
+1596
 01:35:55,610 --> 01:35:58,780
 new, every bullet that missed by me,
 
-1598
+1597
 01:35:59,610 --> 01:36:01,160
 if he could move.
 
-1599
+1598
 01:36:02,570 --> 01:36:05,410
 Close to me, I winced,
 
-1600
+1599
 01:36:07,580 --> 01:36:09,160
 then all of a sudden, it just stopped.
 
-1601
+1600
 01:36:25,180 --> 01:36:25,430
 There are
 
-1602
+1601
 01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:28,680
 people throwing off their smoke gear.
 
-1603
+1602
 01:36:29,230 --> 01:36:31,440
 They ran out
 screaming niggers, niggers, niggers
 
-1604
+1603
 01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:36,400
 and two of them pointed their guns at me.
 
-1605
+1604
 01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:38,190
 Negative niggers.
 
-1606
+1605
 01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:40,280
 And I said, Don't shoot, don't shoot.
 
-1607
+1606
 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:41,320
 Don't shoot.
 
-1608
+1607
 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,200
 Well, I'm coughing with all the gas.
 
-1609
+1608
 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:46,790
 I've been gassed.
 
-1610
+1609
 01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:48,750
 It's an awful thing.
 
-1611
+1610
 01:36:48,750 --> 01:36:50,540
 William Kunstler
 
-1612
+1611
 01:36:51,540 --> 01:36:54,380
 has said that people are dying in there.
 
-1613
+1612
 01:36:54,630 --> 01:36:58,550
 And I agree with that.
 
-1614
+1613
 01:36:59,050 --> 01:37:03,390
 But that people are dying
 and then a shooting went on forever
 
-1615
+1614
 01:37:03,970 --> 01:37:07,220
 and then it was like the shooting subsided
 
-1616
+1615
 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,890
 and then I heard some.
 
-1617
+1616
 01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:15,400
 After the shooting subsided,
 I heard some single shot
 
-1618
+1617
 01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:18,650
 bang and bang.
 
-1619
+1618
 01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:30,040
 After they took over the prison,
 
-1620
+1619
 01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,660
 all those books
 that had been speaking to the cameras
 
-1621
+1620
 01:37:34,170 --> 01:37:37,170
 were all targeted and tortured.
 
-1622
+1621
 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,840
 So yes, yes, yes, yes, they were targeted.
 
-1623
+1622
 01:37:43,130 --> 01:37:45,050
 Andy Barclay.
 
-1624
+1623
 01:37:45,180 --> 01:37:48,220
 They were calling his name.
 
-1625
+1624
 01:37:48,260 --> 01:37:50,600
 Going to that, Bob, looking for him
 
-1626
+1625
 01:37:51,310 --> 01:37:54,100
 and threatening him
 with what they were going to do to him.
 
-1627
+1626
 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,320
 When they when they found him
 and they found him,
 
-1628
+1627
 01:37:59,190 --> 01:38:00,860
 he was yelling.
 
-1629
+1628
 01:38:01,530 --> 01:38:03,990
 No, no, but it's too fucking late.
 
-1630
+1629
 01:38:04,030 --> 01:38:07,070
 They had him do acting, actually
 dragging him towards a
 
-1631
+1630
 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,370
 block far yard over there.
 
-1632
+1631
 01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:13,080
 He's Holland new agreement and the acuity.
 
-1633
+1632
 01:38:24,970 --> 01:38:27,590
 You can see because the gas is so thick,
 
-1634
+1633
 01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:31,220
 but all of a sudden a puff of wind comes
 
-1635
+1634
 01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,390
 and disperses the gas.
 
-1636
+1635
 01:38:35,390 --> 01:38:37,560
 And then I could see.
 
-1637
+1636
 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,650
 And what I saw was fright.
 
-1638
+1637
 01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:44,150
 Hundreds of bodies just laying there.
 
-1639
+1638
 01:38:45,740 --> 01:38:47,950
 Some were moaning, some wasn't moving.
 
-1640
+1639
 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,740
 Blood was everywhere.
 
-1641
+1640
 01:38:55,710 --> 01:39:00,040
 We were given stretchers
 and told to go into the prison.
 
-1642
+1641
 01:39:01,170 --> 01:39:03,260
 It was really an unthinkable scene.
 
-1643
+1642
 01:39:03,260 --> 01:39:06,130
 It was dead and wounded and simply
 
-1644
+1643
 01:39:06,130 --> 01:39:08,890
 starting to carry them out.
 
-1645
+1644
 01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:12,140
 It was far beyond anything
 
-1646
+1645
 01:39:12,140 --> 01:39:15,310
 I had imagined when they said
 we would be doing medical evacuation.
 
-1647
+1646
 01:39:16,230 --> 01:39:18,980
 We were basically civilians
 
-1648
+1647
 01:39:18,980 --> 01:39:22,110
 put into a situation where state troopers
 
-1649
+1648
 01:39:22,110 --> 01:39:24,530
 and correctional officers
 had created a war zone.
 
-1650
+1649
 01:39:26,990 --> 01:39:31,120
 There was a pile of bodies,
 maybe eight or ten people,
 
-1651
+1650
 01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:34,160
 and the man on top,
 it had his eyes shot out.
 
-1652
+1651
 01:39:56,930 --> 01:39:57,600
 Right below us,
 
-1653
+1652
 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,230
 there was a huge pool of rainwater
 
-1654
+1653
 01:40:01,060 --> 01:40:03,400
 and it was blood red.
 
-1655
+1654
 01:40:03,570 --> 01:40:07,070
 And I looked down on down at it
 
-1656
+1655
 01:40:07,070 --> 01:40:10,070
 and they said, Those are false
 teeth down there, aren't they?
 
-1657
+1656
 01:40:10,820 --> 01:40:13,910
 And somebody said, Yeah.
 
-1658
+1657
 01:40:16,540 --> 01:40:18,710
 The attitude of the people
 
-1659
+1658
 01:40:18,710 --> 01:40:20,830
 who should have been concerned
 
-1660
+1659
 01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:24,420
 about what had happened
 was simply that they were
 
-1661
+1660
 01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:28,010
 pleased with what had happened
 
-1662
+1661
 01:40:28,010 --> 01:40:31,220
 and had no qualms or second thoughts
 
-1663
+1662
 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,470
 or anything but satisfaction
 
-1664
+1663
 01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:37,640
 with Walker wants to go back to.
 
-1665
+1664
 01:40:42,810 --> 01:40:45,230
 Why white power weight,
 
-1666
+1665
 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,400
 right, right?
 
-1667
+1666
 01:40:53,820 --> 01:40:56,120
 They had control.
 
-1668
+1667
 01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,410
 And once they had control, you would think
 
-1669
+1668
 01:40:58,410 --> 01:41:00,830
 that things would have stopped.
 
-1670
+1669
 01:41:01,620 --> 01:41:03,250
 They didn't.
 
-1671
+1670
 01:41:06,380 --> 01:41:09,590
 It was clear that at that point
 it was all about revenge.
 
-1672
+1671
 01:41:10,130 --> 01:41:12,930
 It was all about reestablishing
 who was in charge.
 
-1673
+1672
 01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:16,680
 And the most violent ways possible.
 
-1674
+1673
 01:41:24,270 --> 01:41:26,940
 Everybody had to crawl through shit,
 
-1675
+1674
 01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:29,230
 human waste.
 
-1676
+1675
 01:41:32,780 --> 01:41:33,660
 But what do you do?
 
-1677
+1676
 01:41:33,660 --> 01:41:37,120
 Do you live to tell your story
 
-1678
+1677
 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,450
 like I'm doing today
 or do you fucking die?
 
-1679
+1678
 01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:41,200
 I made a choice.
 
-1680
+1679
 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,540
 I want to live.
 
-1681
+1680
 01:41:46,380 --> 01:41:48,460
 Chrome nickel chrome
 
-1682
+1681
 01:41:48,460 --> 01:41:50,550
 for like a dog.
 
-1683
+1682
 01:41:55,140 --> 01:41:58,720
 If you look up, nigga,
 I'll blow your motherfucking brains out.
 
-1684
+1683
 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,270
 What the
 fuck they care about calling you a nigger?
 
-1685
+1684
 01:42:03,890 --> 01:42:06,310
 That was your name.
 
-1686
+1685
 01:42:07,150 --> 01:42:08,440
 They had us marching
 
-1687
+1686
 01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:10,820
 around the yard with our with our hands
 
-1688
+1687
 01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:13,900
 interlocked like this on top of our heads,
 
-1689
+1688
 01:42:13,900 --> 01:42:16,110
 abject surrender.
 
-1690
+1689
 01:42:28,250 --> 01:42:30,420
 When I saw these naked bodies
 
-1691
+1690
 01:42:31,050 --> 01:42:35,300
 lined up, snaked around the area,
 it reminded me
 
-1692
+1691
 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,970
 of portrayals of of African-Americans
 being heard it on the slave ships.
 
-1693
+1692
 01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,390
 That was just horrendous, just horrible,
 
-1694
+1693
 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:45,520
 horrible.
 
-1695
+1694
 01:42:55,780 --> 01:42:58,280
 We're next in the middle of fucking yard.
 
-1696
+1695
 01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,160
 God's going around with like baby bats.
 
-1697
+1696
 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,120
 It was seven remote guys
 as I'm laying here and I'm hoping
 
-1698
+1697
 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,420
 they don't come my way.
 
-1699
+1698
 01:43:21,010 --> 01:43:24,020
 Frank Schmidt,
 Big Black, was put on a table
 
-1700
+1699
 01:43:24,350 --> 01:43:27,690
 with the football under his throat.
 
-1701
+1700
 01:43:30,810 --> 01:43:33,190
 People stood up above him on the catwalk,
 
-1702
+1701
 01:43:33,230 --> 01:43:37,450
 aiming their guns down at him,
 throwing cigars and cigaret butts on him
 
-1703
+1702
 01:43:39,070 --> 01:43:39,740
 . And
 
-1704
+1703
 01:43:39,740 --> 01:43:43,080
 it said, Do said football falls, nigger,
 we're going to shoot you.
 
-1705
+1704
 01:43:46,830 --> 01:43:49,170
 He was told to get to his feet.
 
-1706
+1705
 01:43:49,170 --> 01:43:52,130
 He tried, he stumbled, he fell.
 
-1707
+1706
 01:43:52,130 --> 01:43:54,170
 He was hit with clubs
 
-1708
+1707
 01:43:54,380 --> 01:43:56,670
 on his back between his legs.
 
-1709
+1708
 01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,260
 And he was crying out.
 
-1710
+1709
 01:44:00,890 --> 01:44:03,050
 You know, don't do this. Don't do this.
 
-1711
+1710
 01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,600
 And then you could hear him screaming as
 
-1712
+1711
 01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,600
 he went up to the prison.
 
-1713
+1712
 01:44:14,110 --> 01:44:16,570
 It felt good
 that I had survived this shit.
 
-1714
+1713
 01:44:17,570 --> 01:44:19,990
 And now I got a look out
 
-1715
+1714
 01:44:20,610 --> 01:44:24,200
 because some motion is coming.
 
-1716
+1715
 01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:30,170
 The inmates were entering
 
-1717
+1716
 01:44:30,170 --> 01:44:32,710
 these corridors off of the yard
 
-1718
+1717
 01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:36,380
 and the guards were like
 
-1719
+1718
 01:44:36,380 --> 01:44:38,840
 five or six feet apart with their clubs
 
-1720
+1719
 01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:43,640
 and they would hit them against the wall
 and there was just this
 
-1721
+1720
 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:46,770
 dull drum like sound.
 
-1722
+1721
 01:44:46,770 --> 01:44:50,310
 And then they were hitting the inmates
 as they ran a gantlet.
 
-1723
+1722
 01:44:55,070 --> 01:44:57,400
 We could hear the screams coming out
 
-1724
+1723
 01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,990
 so that we knew they were being tortured
 
-1725
+1724
 01:45:00,990 --> 01:45:05,330
 and that we were somehow
 part of this unthinkable scene
 
-1726
+1725
 01:45:05,530 --> 01:45:09,080
 that there was no escaping from
 but was completely wrong.
 
-1727
+1726
 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,090
 They had guards on both sides,
 and they would be hitting you
 
-1728
+1727
 01:45:16,340 --> 01:45:17,840
 as you were running through beating you
 
-1729
+1728
 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,800
 with hoses and batons
 and whatever they had in their hands.
 
-1730
+1729
 01:45:22,010 --> 01:45:24,140
 I'm ducking, trying to get through,
 
-1731
+1730
 01:45:24,140 --> 01:45:27,760
 protecting my head,
 so I hit all of my all the elbows.
 
-1732
+1731
 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:32,140
 My knees still hurt, beating you
 and they're making you run
 
-1733
+1732
 01:45:32,140 --> 01:45:33,230
 through the gantlet with it,
 
-1734
+1733
 01:45:33,230 --> 01:45:36,190
 took all the glass out the fucking windows
 and put it in the middle of the floor.
 
-1735
+1734
 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,480
 So you had to run through grass
 with bare feet.
 
-1736
+1735
 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,940
 Nobody came out of that yard.
 
-1737
+1736
 01:45:40,940 --> 01:45:46,030
 What with picking without having to pick
 a shot of your feet for four weeks?
 
-1738
+1737
 01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:51,370
 Couldn't walk, nobody could walk anymore.
 
-1739
+1738
 01:45:51,370 --> 01:45:53,460
 But we had to run
 because if you didn't run,
 
-1740
+1739
 01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,500
 they just kept beating you
 with these clubs.
 
-1741
+1740
 01:46:05,930 --> 01:46:08,810
 The families of the hostages,
 a lot of them waited
 
-1742
+1741
 01:46:08,810 --> 01:46:12,560
 just outside the prison wall.
 
-1743
+1742
 01:46:14,980 --> 01:46:17,360
 Then news began to filter out of Attica.
 
-1744
+1743
 01:46:17,690 --> 01:46:20,900
 Names of freed hostages
 were called out to the loved one
 
-1745
+1744
 01:46:21,070 --> 01:46:23,990
 by Curtis Lieutenant Colonel
 
-1746
+1745
 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,160
 Robert
 
-1747
+1746
 01:46:26,110 --> 01:46:26,740
 Elder.
 
-1748
+1747
 01:46:29,950 --> 01:46:31,750
 Some didn't see their men come out.
 
-1749
+1748
 01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:33,580
 All they learned
 was the name of the hospital
 
-1750
+1749
 01:46:33,580 --> 01:46:35,370
 where the survivors were being treated.
 
-1751
+1750
 01:46:35,370 --> 01:46:36,790
 There were no time to wait.
 
-1752
+1751
 01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:40,210
 They ran off to see their man.
 
-1753
+1752
 01:46:42,630 --> 01:46:44,670
 People couldn't seem to run fast enough.
 
-1754
+1753
 01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:51,510
 My mom came home
 and she was with her sister,
 
-1755
+1754
 01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:53,730
 and my mom was crying, obviously upset.
 
-1756
+1755
 01:46:57,150 --> 01:46:59,110
 I was outside sitting on the front porch,
 
-1757
+1756
 01:46:59,110 --> 01:47:02,230
 you know, praying and worrying,
 and where's dad?
 
-1758
+1757
 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,070
 I respect him to show up, you know, and.
 
-1759
+1758
 01:47:06,490 --> 01:47:09,070
 I again, my mom was dead.
 
-1760
+1759
 01:47:09,780 --> 01:47:11,870
 What's what's
 why are you crying, what's going on?
 
-1761
+1760
 01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:15,830
 Well, my mother came back in the house
 and, you know, he
 
-1762
+1761
 01:47:15,870 --> 01:47:19,210
 she said, nobody to play with me
 now, are you?
 
-1763
+1762
 01:47:19,210 --> 01:47:22,500
 I mean, you know,
 because I didn't want to believe it.
 
-1764
+1763
 01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:26,630
 And she finally said, I saw him.
 
-1765
+1764
 01:47:26,930 --> 01:47:29,090
 I saw him.
 
-1766
+1765
 01:47:33,060 --> 01:47:33,520
 Finally,
 
-1767
+1766
 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,480
 she blurted out, Your father's dead.
 
-1768
+1767
 01:47:37,810 --> 01:47:39,270
 So it ran.
 
-1769
+1768
 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,610
 We're in for a while, and I came back
 
-1770
+1769
 01:47:45,490 --> 01:47:49,910
 and I was sitting on the front porch
 trying to be strong and not cry.
 
-1771
+1770
 01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:53,030
 And I could hear everybody in the house
 crying
 
-1772
+1771
 01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:55,620
 and I was trying to be so tough and.
 
-1773
+1772
 01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:04,880
 All right.
 
-1774
+1773
 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:06,630
 Yeah, right.
 
-1775
+1774
 01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:24,690
 The National Guardsmen
 were told to get back in their trucks,
 
-1776
+1775
 01:48:25,150 --> 01:48:28,110
 and we did that
 and were taken out to the parking area.
 
-1777
+1776
 01:48:28,860 --> 01:48:33,660
 And the colonel then addressed
 the battalion, maybe several hundred men,
 
-1778
+1777
 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,370
 and he said, essentially you saw things
 
-1779
+1778
 01:48:37,370 --> 01:48:40,080
 that were excessive and wrong today.
 
-1780
+1779
 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,250
 And I have to ask you
 not to speak of this to anyone
 
-1781
+1780
 01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:48,630
 because the world will not understand
 what happened here today.
 
-1782
+1781
 01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:54,550
 The most violent
 rebellion in modern American penal history
 
-1783
+1782
 01:48:54,550 --> 01:48:58,020
 came to an end today at the maximum
 security prison in New York.
 
-1784
+1783
 01:48:58,310 --> 01:49:01,310
 In the final hours of the revolt,
 led primarily by blacks,
 
-1785
+1784
 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,110
 the inmates murdered
 nine of their white hostages.
 
-1786
+1785
 01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:05,860
 28 convicts were killed
 
-1787
+1786
 01:49:05,860 --> 01:49:09,150
 by state troopers, and sheriff's deputies
 will regain control of the prison.
 
-1788
+1787
 01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:12,820
 The storming of the prison had the full
 approval of New York's governor,
 
-1789
+1788
 01:49:12,820 --> 01:49:17,370
 Rockefeller, who earlier had rejected
 a prisoner demand for complete clemency.
 
-1790
+1789
 01:49:17,700 --> 01:49:22,080
 The White House said that after the prison
 was retaken, President Nixon telephoned
 
-1791
+1790
 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,340
 the governor to express his approval
 of Rockefeller's action.
 
-1792
+1791
 01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,920
 We went in we couldn't tell whether all 39
 
-1793
+1792
 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,090
 hostages would be killed
 and maybe two or 300 prisoners.
 
-1794
+1793
 01:49:33,590 --> 01:49:35,970
 So we were able to pick off
 
-1795
+1794
 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,640
 either
 from the wall or as our men went in.
 
-1796
+1795
 01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:41,940
 The man who had the
 
-1797
+1796
 01:49:41,940 --> 01:49:44,400
 knives at the throat of the hostages
 
-1798
+1797
 01:49:45,020 --> 01:49:48,320
 and they did a fabulous job.
 
-1799
+1798
 01:49:48,610 --> 01:49:50,740
 I mean, this is this
 
-1800
+1799
 01:49:50,740 --> 01:49:53,950
 are these primarily blacks?
 
-1801
+1800
 01:49:53,950 --> 01:49:56,820
 Know, and the whole thing
 was led by the black cabinet,
 
-1802
+1801
 01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:59,080
 are all the All Blacks?
 
-1803
+1802
 01:50:00,660 --> 01:50:04,870
 I haven't got that report,
 but I have to admit I just out.
 
-1804
+1803
 01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,290
 Yeah, yeah, we've got to have any.
 
-1805
+1804
 01:50:07,710 --> 01:50:10,420
 We just not tolerate this kind of
 
-1806
+1805
 01:50:11,630 --> 01:50:12,590
 anarchy.
 
-1807
+1806
 01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:20,640
 Yesterday, officials at the prison said
 
-1808
+1807
 01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,560
 eight of the hostages
 had had their throats cut.
 
-1809
+1808
 01:50:23,980 --> 01:50:26,730
 But today,
 the Monroe County medical examiner,
 
-1810
+1809
 01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:30,280
 having looked at the bodies, said no
 throats were cut at all.
 
-1811
+1810
 01:50:30,860 --> 01:50:35,530
 The medical examiner says the hostages
 were apparently killed by a large caliber
 
-1812
+1811
 01:50:35,530 --> 01:50:38,620
 ammunition
 and shotgun blasts from a distance,
 
-1813
+1812
 01:50:38,990 --> 01:50:42,660
 which immediately raised the possibility
 that some of the hostages may
 
-1814
+1813
 01:50:42,660 --> 01:50:46,540
 in fact have been shot down
 by the lawmen who broke in to rescue them.
 
-1815
+1814
 01:50:47,790 --> 01:50:50,590
 Some of the hostages were actually shot
 
-1816
+1815
 01:50:51,090 --> 01:50:53,920
 running towards the state troopers
 thinking,
 
-1817
+1816
 01:50:54,130 --> 01:50:57,140
 I'm saved, I'm saved.
 
-1818
+1817
 01:50:57,140 --> 01:50:59,220
 And the hostages were dressed
 
-1819
+1818
 01:50:59,220 --> 01:51:01,970
 the same way the inmates were.
 
-1820
+1819
 01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:05,140
 Anything that inmate garb on it.
 
-1821
+1820
 01:51:05,140 --> 01:51:07,980
 They just started shooting at.
 
-1822
+1821
 01:51:10,020 --> 01:51:14,110
 What Rockefeller had done was treat.
 
-1823
+1822
 01:51:15,190 --> 01:51:17,360
 The hostages
 
-1824
+1823
 01:51:17,950 --> 01:51:21,370
 as no more real live
 
-1825
+1824
 01:51:21,370 --> 01:51:26,290
 human beings who deserve to be respected
 than the prisoners.
 
-1826
+1825
 01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:30,540
 And so you kill them all
 and you restore order
 
-1827
+1826
 01:51:31,090 --> 01:51:35,170
 and you make me into a major
 
-1828
+1827
 01:51:35,340 --> 01:51:38,510
 figure who believes in law and order
 
-1829
+1828
 01:51:39,010 --> 01:51:43,260
 at a time when that concept is beginning
 
-1830
+1829
 01:51:43,260 --> 01:51:46,890
 to really take hold.
 
-1831
+1830
 01:52:08,670 --> 01:52:09,370
 We should have entered
 
-1832
+1831
 01:52:09,370 --> 01:52:11,960
 in a negotiated settlement.
 
-1833
+1832
 01:52:12,460 --> 01:52:14,880
 No, they were they were interested
 in that, they were interested in showing.
 
-1834
+1833
 01:52:16,300 --> 01:52:19,380
 The naked fist of power law and order.
 
-1835
+1834
 01:52:21,050 --> 01:52:24,140
 The national mindset of the nation
 was law and order.
 
-1836
+1835
 01:52:25,060 --> 01:52:27,640
 And law and order does not permit.
 
-1837
+1836
 01:52:29,230 --> 01:52:32,190
 Any challenge?
 
-1838
+1837
 01:52:32,190 --> 01:52:35,150
 To his authority whatsoever.
 
-1839
+1838
 01:52:35,150 --> 01:52:38,070
 God willing, a few more months in
 January will be 90 years old.
 
-1840
+1839
 01:52:39,490 --> 01:52:42,200
 I will never, ever, ever, ever,
 
-1841
+1840
 01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:44,830
 ever, ever, ever.
 
-1842
+1841
 01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:47,330
 We get Atika.
 
-1843
+1842
 01:52:47,620 --> 01:52:48,290
 Ever.
 
-1844
+1843
 01:52:51,370 --> 01:52:54,710
 It didn't have to be that way.
 
-1845
+1844
 01:53:38,630 --> 01:53:41,130
 All eight cases.
 
-1846
+1845
 01:53:41,220 --> 01:53:45,140
 Died of gunshot wounds.
 
-1847
+1846
 01:53:45,260 --> 01:53:48,180
 There was no evidence of slash throats.
 
-1848
+1847
 01:53:49,930 --> 01:53:53,140
 We're sure
 
-1849
+1848
 01:53:54,350 --> 01:53:58,900
 your. The.
 
-1850
+1849
 01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:11,910
 I have never received an apology.
 
-1851
+1850
 01:54:13,790 --> 01:54:15,670
 I've never received an apology,
 and for me,
 
-1852
+1851
 01:54:15,670 --> 01:54:17,670
 that's a pretty big deal.
 
-1853
+1852
 01:54:25,340 --> 01:54:26,140
 What is money
 
-1854
+1853
 01:54:26,140 --> 01:54:29,140
 do when you don't have your dad
 
-1855
+1854
 01:54:29,140 --> 01:54:31,970
 or your brother or your uncle who?
 
-1856
+1855
 01:54:34,690 --> 01:54:37,310
 How does that replace anything?
 
-1857
+1856
 01:54:37,650 --> 01:54:40,440
 And I think it was the state's
 way of saying,
 
-1858
+1857
 01:54:41,730 --> 01:54:45,820
 we're going to give you this money
 and we want you to go away and.
 
-1859
+1858
 01:54:49,580 --> 01:54:52,910
 This is my.
 
-1860
+1859
 01:54:53,660 --> 01:54:55,710
 True.
 
-1861
+1860
 01:54:57,330 --> 01:54:58,540
 Well, she.
 
-1862
+1861
 01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,880
 He threw
 
-1863
+1862
 01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,930
 for nearly 30 years, former Attica
 inmates have waited for justice.
 
-1864
+1863
 01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,350
 Today, it finally came in the form of a 12
 
-1865
+1864
 01:55:10,350 --> 01:55:12,970
 million dollar settlement.
 
-1866
+1865
 01:55:14,350 --> 01:55:18,940
 Be. There's no justice.
 
-1867
+1866
 01:55:20,860 --> 01:55:22,900
 All we got was money
 
-1868
+1867
 01:55:22,900 --> 01:55:25,360
 and money wasn't enough.
 
-1869
+1868
 01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:28,070
 Then you can't justify all the killings
 that happened in Attica.
 
-1870
+1869
 01:55:28,700 --> 01:55:30,410
 You can't justify that.
 
-1871
+1870
 01:55:30,410 --> 01:55:31,450
 So there's no justice.
 
-1872
+1871
 01:55:31,450 --> 01:55:34,000
 There is no justice.
 
-1873
+1872
 01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:39,040
 We shall.
 
-1874
+1873
 01:55:40,130 --> 01:55:43,630
 Be. And.
 
-1875
+1874
 01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,300
 They might.
 
-1876
+1875
 01:55:51,470 --> 01:55:53,430
 True.
 
-1877
+1876
 01:55:55,060 --> 01:55:57,640
 Well, I'm sure.
 
-1878
+1877
 01:55:58,770 --> 01:56:01,980
 Me, too,
 
-1879
+1878
 01:56:01,980 --> 01:56:04,530
 do so.
 
-1880
+1879
 01:56:10,740 --> 01:56:12,910
 And. Be.
 
-1881
+1880
 01:56:21,210 --> 01:56:27,090
 You. Some
 
-1882
+1881
 01:56:27,090 --> 01:56:45,860
 foolish. Oh.